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Counting Down The Rarest AMGs Ever Made (Video)

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R63- 200 Units

( He forgot W210 E55 4Matic- 150 Units)

E60- 126 ( well we know better)

S70 W140- 112

G63 6x6- 100

SLK 55 BS- 100

CLK DTM 100 coupes 100 Cabriolets ( he says 80)

SL73 R129- 85

E36 124 Coupe- 36

E36 124 Cabiolet- 68

C55 W202- 59

Hammer - 54

SEC 6.0 C126- 50

SL 60 R129- 50

G36- 40

C215 CL63- 26

CLK GTR- also 26

W220 S63- 22

S140 S73T- 18

W124 E42- 15 ( he forgot S210 E55T 4Matic- also 15 Units)

G63 W463- 5


And so on...
 
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AFAIK, there was never a W124 E42 from Germany... only Japan.

Also, it isn't clear if the E60 number is for W124, W210, or both?

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The W126 SEC widebody cars mentioned at #9 - only states the 6.0l quad cam cars. There were 5.6l/5.4l versions made. The author of the video states the production #'s for the pre-merger cars is suspect, which we all know to be true, so the 50 quoted for widebody SECs is really unknown (although I know mine is legit and one of the few made).
 
While some cars on the list are already set for greatness and multi million dollar auctions (CLK GTR, 6X6) ,other will unfortunately not accumulate to anything (e.g the carpool AMG).
 
Also the number 100 for the G63 6x6 is wrong. As well as many other figures. All pre merger stuff is speculation and hear-say since no clear figures exist but we all know...
 
W210 E60 was a subset of the W210 E50 cars.


Jeff

Technically, there was no E60 W210, if you bought a E50 and paid the extra, it would be converted to a E60. Weird way to market a car. I don't remember exactly but there was some logic to that decision.
 
The following table should be more accurate numbers that I've pulled from EPC. Also added more models.

A few housekeeping items:
- There are still more models outside of this list. I see a G43, M119 based G60 in the AMG 45 book along with more models potentially not even mentioned in the book or ones I'm not familiar with.
- Missing 140 chassis AMGs as I couldn't differentiate datacards besides WDB1400501A208240 (957) and WDB1400571A016988 (990).
- There are more produced of models like the 500SL 6.0L, 300E/CE/TE 3.4L, W124 E60, S210 E60 etc. that cannot be determined through EPC/datacards.

AMG ModelTechnical CriteriaSourceUnitsNotes
W124 HammerM117 6L 4VLink20
C124 HammerM117 6L 4VLink12
S124 HammerM117 6L 4VLink, AMG124225160322Second one: AMG12422516032, originally a Hammer but converted to M119.960 6L after engine failure
W201 190E 3.2L957 or 990 201.029EPC127
R129 500SL 6.0L957 or 990 129.066EPC156
W124 300E 3.4L957 or 990 124.031EPC133
C124 300CE 3.4L957 or 990 124.051EPC164
A124 300CE 3.4L Cabrio957 or 990 124.061EPC38
S124 300TE 3.4L957 or 990 124.091EPC103
W124 E60957 124.036EPC149
W124 E36957 124.032EPC8
C124 E36957 124.052EPC69
S124 E36957 124.092EPC172
A124 E36957 124.066EPC69
W210 E36957 210.055EPC211
W210 E60Link157-200
S210 E60957 210.272EPC1
W210 E55 4Matic030 210.083EPC and VeDoc41
S210 E55 4Matic030 210.283EPC and VeDoc90
R129 SL55113.98X 129.068EPC26
R129 SL60957 129.067EPC371
SL70Commonly Believed150
SL73Commonly Believed85
W202 C55113.98X 202.033EPC11
S202 C55113.98X 202.093EPC4
W215 CL63030 215.378EPC63
W220 S63030 220.178EPC60
CLK GTR CoupeCommonly Believed20
CLK GTR RoadsterCommonly Believed6
R171 SLK55 BSP98 171.473EPC29
C209 CLK DTM030 209.342EPC103
A209 CLK DTM030 209.442EPC81
S140 7.2 555 and 7.3 565Commonly Believed18
500GE 6.0 M117ZB6 463.228EPC443
G36 SWBZB5 463.230EPC66
G36 LWBZB5 463.231EPC140
G36 CabrioZB5 463.208EPC3
G63M137Commonly Believed5
G63 6x6P66 and P67 and P68 463.272EPC180
R63 SWB251.077EPC83
R63 LWB251.177EPC230
 
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There is more than one S124 hammer. I know one car personally, green. Was a M117 hammer and got converted to M119.960 6L after an engine failure. Car was auctioned and got sold tto the US iirc.
I thought of that car but forgot to add it :facepalm: I think it was the green one that was documented on this forum. I'll add a notes column to explain that among other stuff that'll pop up for other models in the future. Didn't know that ended up in the US though.

I think there are more than 1 E60T though, as I’ve seen a couple for sale at the same time in Germany a few years back.
There are, I was more focused on the hard numbers but will add a note in a new column. Similar to how there are other non-957 E60, 500SL 6.0L, 300E/CE/TE 3.4L etc. it's almost impossible to know exactly how many were made and generally leads to all sorts of numbers being tossed around if it can be estimated in the first place.
 
Here are AMG numbers that I have seen....

C 36 AMG
1995 401
1996 296
1997 199

C 43 AMG
1998 788
1999 546
2000 91

C 32 AMG
2002 1600
2003 878
2004 219

C 55 AMG
2005 1299
2006 451

CL 55 AMG
2001 303
2002 607
2003 1379
2004 611
2005 486
2006 182

CL 65 AMG
2006 52

CLK 55 AMG Coupe
2001 1343
2002 1467
2003 761
2004 509
2005 247

CLK 55 AMG Cabriolet
2002 1340
2004 782
2005 662
2006 180

CLS 55 AMG
2006 2765

E 55 AMG
1999 1104
2000 1203
2001 653
2002 997
2003 1318
2004 3218
2005 2214
2006 1187

E 55 AMG Wagon
2005 129
2006 64

G 55 AMG
2003 572
2004 294
2005 921
2006 393

ML 55 AMG
2000 2084
2001 1105
2002 735
2003 150

S 55 AMG
2001 1042
2002 1414
2003 1754
2004 854
2005 908
2006 429

S 65 AMG
2006 427

SL 55 AMG
2004 5217
2005 1542
2006 748

SL 65 AMG
2005 651
2006 390

SLK 32 AMG
2002 1182
2003 562
2004 312

SLK 55 AMG
2005 832
2006 1297


Separately, US-only numbers for the W211 AMGs (not confirmed)
E 55 AMG
1999: 1104
2000: 1203
2001: 653
2002: 997
2003: 1318
2004: 3218
2005: 2214
2006: 1187

E 63 AMG
2007: 1353
2008: 1063
2009: 431

E 55 AMG Wagon
2005: 129
2006: 64

E 63 AMG Wagon
2007: 67
2008: 62
2009: 24
 
@WDB748372 wow, great work!! Any EPC numbers for the A124 E34 ? (is my source - the 2019 edition of Michael Lagemann's book on A124 - correct that there were 35 of these pre-facelift cabrio's, all left-hand-steering?)
 
Any numbers for W211 E63 AMG (211.077) and E55 AMG (211.076)?
Worldwide E55 AMG (211.076) - 12,981
USA E55 AMG (211.076) - 6,758
Worldwide E63 AMG (211.077) - 4,957
USA E63 AMG (211.077) - 3,104

Your E63 looks like paint code 368 which there are 266 total of in the USA for all MYs.

Just a quick note on some of these figures: EPC might be missing datacards which I've come across before. Maybe that's a topic of its own but these should still be 99.9% accurate.

Here are AMG numbers that I have seen....
I can do all these later tonight. I have them for the W210 E55. 2001 MY was the one with the missing country code so everyone thinks it's a 'rare' MY. People believe what they want to believe or some just deny any EPC data because Mercedes themselves never released it.
 
@WDB748372 wow, great work!! Any EPC numbers for the A124 E34 ? (is my source - the 2019 edition of Michael Lagemann's book on A124 - correct that there were 35 of these pre-facelift cabrio's, all left-hand-steering?)
Never heard of an A124 E34. Do you have a sample VIN or know what chassis that might fall under?

Edit: Did you mean the 300CE 3.4L Cabrio?
 
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Worldwide E55 AMG (211.076) - 12,981
USA E55 AMG (211.076) - 6,758
Worldwide E63 AMG (211.077) - 4,957
USA E63 AMG (211.077) - 3,104

Your E63 looks like paint code 368 which there are 266 total of in the USA for all MYs.
Correct. 368, Flint Gray. A fairly common color for the 211 AMGs -- actually only about 8.7% of E63 production.
 
Are you sure about E36 convertibles? I think there were only 68 and not 69.
And why salons are listed?
I guess CLK 55 AMG convertibles (A208) were made 1432 and not 1340.
 
W124 E36?
Never crossed my mind or seen one. Added to the list. There's 8.

Are you sure about E36 convertibles? I think there were only 68 and not 69.
Yeah. If you want send me a PM. I can find the extra VIN. Might not be able to PM, feel free to paste them here.

And why salons are listed?
You mean not listed? I just added the W124 E36. I didn't know they existed.

I guess CLK 55 AMG convertibles (A208) were made 1432 and not 1340.
Those numbers are Mercedes numbers. They've been lurking online for quite a long time. I'll provide a similar list to what's seen in post #15 later tonight.
 
Correct. 368, Flint Gray. A fairly common color for the 211 AMGs -- actually only about 8.7% of E63 production.
One of MB’s best colors IMO. But then again I’m biased. Obviously looks better on certain cars, like any paint.

@gerryvz seems to have posted the same numbers from the AMG Private Lounge that I’ve seen (North America). I find it interesting to see how that compares with worldwide for the EPC.

Interesting that no one seems to have number from 2007 forward… I think they started being a lot more tight lipped about all this after the W220/215 series. I have no idea how many W221 63 or 65 cars were produced. Seems like those were the numbers I was looking for when I found the Private Lounge listing.

maw
 
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Here are AMG numbers that I have seen....

I created a similar table attached below. The way these numbers were sourced from EPC for each chassis:
1) Get all VINs from North America database.
2) Parse Country Code out of Order Number and filter out Canada/Mexico (701, 702, 703).
3) Parse and group the 10th digit, the model year, from VIN numbers.
4) I came across few pre-production vehicles that did not have a US-based VIN therefore did not include them.

Keep in mind there could be small differences. EPC might not have a few VINs to begin with. I'd be curious to know what the root cause could be, maybe different EPC versions? If automating any of this then there could be a bug in someones code when handling data.

With all that said, @YuraCoupe in your example how were you able to conclude 1432 for the 2002 CLK55 Cabriolet? From the steps I outlined above, did you take a different approach?
Edit: That looks to be the total number for 208.474 for North America?
 

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How do you do this?

Presumably this returns global data not just RNA but you have access to the MB RNA server or something?
I haven't heard of the MB RNA server. In your copy of EPC you'll see a folder like the following.
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For USA I looked at MBNA_DCNA. This would only contain vehicles for North America, not global data. Even if it were global, someone else would jump to the wrong number if they just looked at the total number of a chassis (I assume they would realize the numbers being inflated) but I process the data. I filtered Canada/Mexico and logged all the remaining country codes which are seen at very top of the table I provided. There is a VIN column that I used to determine the model year. A RoW vehicle would have an empty field for that so it wouldn't have factored in the table I provided.

There are the following databases:
DCEX_DXEX, MBJA_DCJA, MBLA_DCLA, MBNA_DCNA, MBOE_DCCAR, MBSA_DCSA, MBSM_DCSM and finally MBOE_DCGWGN. For the table in post #8 I looked at all of these as all these combined is the global data.

Interesting that no one seems to have number from 2007 forward
Wasn't this initially posted around 2008? It seemed like it was the most recent data at the time. I can still provide the "63" era of cars or a particular chassis.
 
I haven't heard of the MB RNA server. In your copy of EPC you'll see a folder like the following.
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For USA I looked at MBNA_DCNA. This would only contain vehicles for North America, not global data. Even if it were global, someone else would jump to the wrong number if they just looked at the total number of a chassis (I assume they would realize the numbers being inflated) but I process the data. I filtered Canada/Mexico and logged all the remaining country codes which are seen at very top of the table I provided. There is a VIN column that I used to determine the model year. A RoW vehicle would have an empty field for that so it wouldn't have factored in the table I provided.

There are the following databases:
DCEX_DXEX, MBJA_DCJA, MBLA_DCLA, MBNA_DCNA, MBOE_DCCAR, MBSA_DCSA, MBSM_DCSM and finally MBOE_DCGWGN. For the table in post #8 I looked at all of these as all these combined is the global data.


Wasn't this initially posted around 2008? It seemed like it was the most recent data at the time. I can still provide the "63" era of cars or a particular chassis.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, I don't currently have EPC with my SDS setup but I'm looking to rectify this (along with Star Finder) soon.
 
- There are still more models outside of this list. I see a G43, M119 based G60 in the AMG 45 book along with more models potentially not even mentioned in the book or ones I'm not familiar with.
Can you see by for example this VIN WDB1290611F013373, that belongs to a R129 with 3,4 M104 KE, how many were made?
 
Can you see by for example this VIN WDB1290611F013373, that belongs to a R129 with 3,4 M104 KE, how many were made?
EPC datacard does not indicate code 957, nor a 3.4L displacement, for that VIN. There's no way to document "conversion" cars that were upgraded by AMG post-delivery. Complicating things is that some datacards may have been updated to add code 957 after the AMG conversion, and there might not be a way to tell the difference.


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in #8 the total number of 3.4L engine cars is around 600...
imho this number should be way higher, as the AMG engine number on the block of a 3.4 is 4 digits...
so, we can even think that they made 9999.... but pretty sure more than 1000
 
- Afaik S140 came in two versions. A 7.2 555 and a 7.3 565.
- 443 seems a lot for 500GE 6.0 M117. I doubt if this is correct. Sotheby and MB Market claim 13.
hmm I can't edit the table anymore. Does the 7.2 555 and 7.3 565 total 18 then?
Maybe it's another SA code that's bundled with ZB5 or these can't be differentiated by datacards either? I agree, just judging from the 443 number we would see quite a few more online.

in #8 the total number of 3.4L engine cars is around 600...
imho this number should be way higher, as the AMG engine number on the block of a 3.4 is 4 digits...
so, we can even think that they made 9999.... but pretty sure more than 1000
There's definitely more than what's listed as there are 3.4L cars without the 957/990 code. This is why I wanted to added a column to specify. I found a few 3.4L engine numbers online. Do you mean there are engine numbers past 1000?
 

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hmm I can't edit the table anymore. Does the 7.2 555 and 7.3 565 total 18 then?
I believe so.

Several VINs have interesting Order Location. For example Tourists (without USA) and Company Employee.
This VIN WDB1240311B556284 has Authorities Sales.

And this (already blurred when i got it) rare engine number.
 

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Hoi Guys , I know a SL 300 3.4 datcard no info but check de German papers
I believe I had checked 129.061 but confirmed just now. There aren't any 957/990 coded of those so didn't add it to the list. Would be quite difficult to determine how many of those were produced.

It would be interesting to have proof that sometimes the opposite happened (changed datacards after original issuance)
In the 957 only thread the first/zeroth VIN in the list was a pre-facelift model that later had the datacard altered. I believe I mentioned this before but my 210 E60 originally didn't have 957, it's not present in the paper datacard, but when decoded in EPC it's present indicating it was also later added.
 
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