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gerryvz said:
The later 450SEL 6.9 used a three-speed autobox with torque converter. A stock US-spec 6.9 (250HP) was a 16-second 1/4 mile car.
Cheers,
Gerry

My Dad had a 6.9 and I understood that the power train was descended from the power train of the earlier 6.3 car. That's why I had it in my head that the 6.3 had a three speed auto too. Thanks for setting me straight!

The next drag day is the first Sat. of June. If it's warm, as I suspect it will be, it will be a Benzer 1 vs. Bimmer day! Right Justin?

This next date is still on the lame 6:00AM schedule but the next two are finally on the GOOD 12:00PM to 10:00PM schedule.
2011 Street Legal Drag Racing Schedule
April 16
May 7
June 4
July 30 (Twilight)
September 3 (Twilight)
October 29 (Halloween Street Legal)
November 19
December 3
Regards, Eric
 

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NIIBE said:
Here is the latest time slip with 3.69 and LSD.
The result was so poor and sad for me. There would be a too much bad condition No VHT and without proper setting for spring and shocks etc. above 27c degree.
WOW!

2.106 = 60'
1/8 mile = 8.678 @ 88.22 mph
1/4 mile = 12.921 @ 118.25 mph (!!!)

Niibe, how much power is this engine making? Looks like it's well over 400hp to get at trap speed that high. Maybe closer to 450hp. You aren't using NOS, are you...? :nos:

With better traction, you should be able to get the ET down to the mid-12's. Your 60' time should be around 1.80 seconds (maybe better) with 3.69 gears. But the trap speed is incredible...


:kinggrin:
 
Yes, that trap speed is ~10 MPH (16 km/hr) higher than my NOS trap speed with a 12.89 ET in the 1/4 mile.

Wow. NEEEEED more info !!

Perhaps the radiation has somehow tweaked the LH computer injection EEPROM maps and EZL.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
Or maybe it is helping the combustion process!

Or maybe it was screwing with the track's electronics and that was really a 11.921 run!
Regards, Eric
 
Thank you for your interesting Uncle Gerry, GSXR, and 400E and All Runners

My 500E Recent detail is following
All information could be seen at My b-log but written in Japanese. Sorry.
http://mercedesbenznetcom.blog81.fc2.com/
Tire
F: Continental Sports Contact 5 255/35/19
R: NITTO 555 Drag radial 275/45/17 3years old Air is 0.9kg/cm2
Shock
F: Bilstein Enapetal Custum Shocks 9 rebound adjustable: F:4 Mid
R: Bilstein Enapetal Custum Shocks 9 rebound adjustable: R:1 Softest but not suit with hard Spring
Spring
Echigoya Custom Springs 10kg/mm around for Speed Run, Not Suit for Drag strip too Stiff and bad balance with soft Shock
Motor
Stock AMG M119 motors 6.0 yet running from 2005 over 100,000km
Headers, front pipes and Silencers
Echigoya Custom build Headers and Front Y 55mm Dia pipes with Twin A/F sensors and Ex Temp sensor.
Echigoya Custom build main and rear silencer and 75 mm Dia pipe

continue

niibe
 
Intake
Echigoya Custum made air cleaner box
Echigoya intake manifold modification with cool air gap

Fuel
380cc@3bar BOSCH EV6 Fuel injectors
Adjustable fuel Pressure Regulator
Hi-Octan pomp gus

Fuel management
LH EP-ROM Setting(s) and Writing(s) A/F Around 12 to 13:1
Ex temp is around 800C at Front pipe collector

Trans
3000rpm Stall Converter
Echigoya Custum build AT with add extra K1 and K2 clutch disks ( 5 to 6 each )
10 rows Trans cooler

Diff
OS-giken LSD with 2.65 to 3.69

Cooling Too Much to list

Remove Stock Engine fan and Auxiliary fans
Single Electric fan with Custom made aluminum shroud
Custom made Separate Air condensers at L&R like Porsche 996
Remove Stock power steering cooling pipe
2rows Power Steering Cooler at Left inner fender
Niibe Custom made Finned Aluminum Oil pan
Porsche racing Oil cooler larger capacity
Etigoya Custom made Under Floor Cooling Diffuser (Engine Under Cover )
Custum made Rear Flat Diffuser : Cutting Spare tire house and Flatten

Body
Echigoya Custum made FRP HOOD with ducts
Echigoya Custum made FRP Trunk
Remove Sunroof and CFRP Roof Skins

The Weight is around 1644kg with Rear Seat and heavy Audio AMP

NIIBE
 
Benzer 1 really rocked today! 15.95 in much worse conditions than the last time when we couldn't do better than a 16.95! Mind boggling! Spanked the Bimmer too! (Well, actually, slaughtered the Bimmer.) I honestly think that I was more thrilled to get that 15.95 out of Benzer 1 today than I was when I got that 14.348 out of Benzer 3!

Dave, do you remember? I told you that there is more in these old M103s than you think! You just have to give them some love! (And hack off their resonator and muffler!)

Oh, and BTW, Benzer 1 isn't for sale anymore! You guys should have grabbed him when you had the chance!

Full report later.
Regards, Eric
 
Please by all means upload your results and/or timeslips! I'm eager to see them !! Note that most folks here are most interested in M119 / E500E results, though.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
Yes, I know there is very little interest in M103 stuff around here. That is why I asked if anybody wanted the details.

I don't have the ability to scan any timeslips but Justin does and he has his timeslips of 9 of our runs. I'll ask him to post my best E/T and his best E/T. (I actually got THREE 15s on Sat.) This was only the second time I've taken the M103 equipped Benzer 1 to this track, ALL of the rest of the track days were devoted to my M119 equipped Benzer 3.

The S70 guy, Spacey Casey, has videos of several of these runs on his camera, I will link them as soon as he posts them.

I know that Dave probably wants to see proof too as he's probably gonna have a hard time believing my E/T claim! Where is Dave anyways?
Regards, Eric
 
The videos and timeslips are still not posted yet. I guarandamntee you if the Bimmer had won, the stuff would be up by now. Come-on Justin! :wank307: It's been over a week!

Be that as it may, these are the remaining dates for this year. A decent number of dates have been added! "Twilight" means 2:00PM to 10:00PM racing, a program they finally enacted when they finally figured out that people don't want to race in the Summer heat. That mid-Sept date should've been a Twilight date too. (It was last year.) Perhaps a mistake has been made. I'll have to look into that.

June 25
July 16 (Twilight)
July 30 (Twilight)
August 13 (Twilight)
September 3 (Twilight)
September 17
October 15
October 29 (Halloween Street Legal)
November 19
December 3
Regards, Eric
 
Eric, the bimmer DID win a couple of those races. I haven't been able to post them, sorry. I'm sure people would take your word for it if you would just TYPE out the stats :-/
 
The Bimmer didn't win those races, the Benz driver lost them. Both drivers had R/Ts that were all over the the map that day. Go ahead and post those videos too though if you want! Even taking into account the jacked R/Ts, I know Benzer 1 won more races than the Bimmer did.

There's still nothing like seeing videos and timeslips in living color. Words can not do proper justice nor even remotely adequately tell the story of the awesomely thorough spanking administered by the mighty Benzer 1! Plus, I'm gonna use them to update some threads over on MercedesShop too. I also want to post them in my ad for Benzers 1 and 2 over there to show those goofballs who didn't buy them what they missed out on.

Sometimes, I just like to watch these track videos. They are a good pick me up when I'm feeling low, and a hug from my little girl, which would normally be my first choice to make it all better, isn't available. (Like when she is sleeping, or at the store with Mommy, etc.) I just can't wait to see them!

Spacey Casey said he would post them if you leave them with him. Or you can loan the camera to me and I'll post them!
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
The Bimmer didn't win those races, the Benz driver lost them. Both drivers had R/Ts that were all over the the map that day.
You're not waiting for that elusive fourth yellow light, now are you...? In case you haven't seen it, here's a video to show you how it's done, courtesy of my wife (she treed me with an 0.030, lol!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PqV5f8YJQo
(skip to 1:00, watch to 1:50 or so)


:hornets:

:tree:
 
I think you misunderstood. Remember, I said that Benzer 1 SLAUGHTERED the Bimmer! Benzer 1 lost a few only because the driver red-lighted.

And don't forget, I do have some .02s under my belt.

The races were so lopsided that even in the races where Justin relighted and I was snoozing at the tree, Benzer 1 still got to the finish line first. The Bimmer's best E/T of the day was still about a sec and a half slower than Benzer 1's best was. Benzer 1's worst E/T of the day was still well over a second quicker than the Bimmer's best.

Honestly though, I really didn't plan it this way. I thought and even feared that the fact that the Bimmer is much newer, has a fresh head on it AND a full 100,000 fewer miles, plus an aftermarket after cat exhaust, not to mention 4 valve heads and superior Bosch Motronic engine management (vs. the much reviled CIS-E B1 is stuck with) would all contribute to us getting left far behind, especially since we couldn't do better than a 16.95 the last time we were there, which, again, was on the day that had the best D/A we had ever seen there. (Justin in fact set his 500E's N/A record, a 13.80, on that very day.) Also, Benzer 1's 235,000 mile trans is really showing it's age with sluggish shifts too. I didn't think that our slight displacement and weight advantages would overcome all of those disadvantages. This is why I hacked off the exhaust after the cat, to try to level the playing field a bit, since it needed to be done anyway because it was a crappy hack job that was clearly way more restrictive than stock. (Benzer 1's sudden huge improvement in performance is now proof of that.) I never imagined though that Benzer 1 would be a full second faster on a day with higher temps and resulting poorer D/A with nothing more than an ECU swap and that after cat exhaust delete.

I have to give the Sauceman a hard time though cause I told him not to buy that Bimmer. When he first sold his 300E (for damn good money I'll add) I told him to take that money and buy a turbo Volvo wagon cause he wanted and needed a wagon. He bought the Bimmer anyways. If he had listened to me, he could and would still be enjoying fuel economy that is about comparable to what he is getting now but he could and would also be spanking Benzer 3 now too instead of struggling to even stay in the same county as Benzer 1. He would, in fact, be running E/Ts comparable to what his 500E does in N/A form and he wouldn't have to wait for perfect D/A days to do it. But these kids, they never listen! He wanted the Bimmer cause he thinks it looks better! Well, I think whatever car wins the race is the one that "looks better"! The money he got for his 300E could have bought him a real nice turbo Volvo wagon! Now he's selling the Bimmer and instead of listening to me this time, he is thinking about getting yet another BMW! Kids!

Enough talk already! Let's roll those videos! Let's see some race footage!
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
There was a kid in a 2004ish GS400 that was snickering about my pushing Benzer3 through the lanes. He wasn't snickering any more after I beat him. There was a video made of that run but it was never posted despite their assurances that it would be.
Regards, Eric

Well that kid finally did post the video in May, even though the run occurred in early February, it's a good quality one too! I had given up on it ever getting posted and had stopped looking for it. I stumbled on it when I was looking at Dave's video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7QYOa0x ... re=related It's a pretty thorough spanking!

He has vowed to hunt me down like the dawg that I am for a rematch after he has done more mods to the car. Bring it!
Regards, Eric
 
Not much to report. It was hotter than it had been forecast to be and the stupid track still hadn't switched over to Summer mode Twilight racing yet so people stayed away in droves. Smallest turnout I have ever seen! Less than 200 racers! I goofed off most of the middle of the day and still got in 15 runs, by far my greatest number ever! The heat and poor D/A conditions prevented Benzer 1 from running anything better than a low 16 this time. But we still spanked a nice Firebird GTA and a few ricers including one more than once! There was a 328i that had been running mid-16s all day so I figured my low 16s would make for a nice video for you all to see. We lined them up and he proceeded to run a high 15! His only 15 of the day! Bunk! The video still hasn't been posted yet but if and when it is I will link it. We lost by about a car length. :thumbsdown:

Still waiting for the Sauceman and/or Spacey Casey to post the videos and timeslips from the prior date.

Dave, even though I haven't sold Benzer 1 yet (and now don't want too), I did sell Uncle and that has freed up some space for me to bring Benzer 4 back home! I have even already begun some preliminary work on him! The gas in his tank is pretty rancid though and as a result he's not running too well right now so we're not yet ready to test the 92 EZL on him just yet. I am now ready to pull the trigger on our deal though if you are. (See below.)

gsxr said:
If you had a full set of late headlight wipers (motor, arms, nuts, grommets, etc - no panels needed)... I'd call that an even trade for the EZL.
:cheers2:

400Eric said:
If you'll send me back that $10 so I can apply it towards the shipping this might be doable. (In other words, you cover/covered the EZL shipping, I'll cover the wiper stuff shipping, making this a true even steven trade even though the shipping costs on the wiper stuff will be higher.)

If you are cool with that I'll go ahead and pull the stuff off of B-4 and if the look that results from that surgery isn't too hard on the eyes I'll send you the stuff.

You've got to give me some time though as like I said in an earlier post, If I show up over there where the car is stored, I'm probably gonna have to commit to an exit date for that car leaving there and I really need for B-1 to leave here before I dare risk bringing B-4 back here. I will however be bringing B-4 back here in about 2 months anyways even if B-1 isn't gone by then cause I want to begin work on B-4 as it really seems that B-3 has hit a wall performance wise. (Re-read this paragraph again if it doesn't make sense the first time.)
Regards, Eric

gsxr said:
Sounds like a plan, Eric! If you're not crazy about the appearance of the car sans wipers, no worries. Although you may prefer to keep the 420 wiper-less for more airflow, right? ;)

:e500launch:

Please let me know.
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
Dave? Dave! David Snavid the Davemiester, where are you?
Huh? What? I'm right here! Wait, I mean "dave's not here, man." Whazzup, four-point-two?

:lolol:
 
Yeah, I know, I need to take those enlargement pills....... :wank307:

You two have to admit though that at least half of the 500E/E500s in existence couldn't and wouldn't better the 14.3 that my little 4.2 has pulled cause their owners don't do squat to make their cars faster. They just focus on making them look good. That's NOT what they were created for! :burnout: :boxing: :bat: Maybe that's why we can't get anymore of them to show up at our racing days....... they don't want to be embarrassed by a "four-point-two! :stickpoke:

Dave, please read and respond to my last post on the previous page.
Regards, Eric
 
LOL! Just yankin' your chain, Eric. :) Believe me, I know how quick the 420 is, and if you dropped some 2.82's in there you'd shave off about 3 tenths or so (maybe more)... IF you could get it to hook up (i.e., 2.82 with LSD). I know, I know, you don't wanna do that, but c'mon, wouldn't you love to have the first 4.2L in the 13's, normally aspirated? *elbow elbow* I seriously think your car could run 13.9's... uncorrected... with 2.82 LSD and sticky/lightweight tires. A slight tailwind might be required, and you'd need the trunk empty, fuel on reserve, etc, but hey - that'd be COOL. Leave your other 420 stock with 2.24's for around-town fuel economy.

I jst read the last post - sounds good to me, if you have a set of wipers/arms/motors, that would be great! I'd take that in trade for the EZL. Which reminds me, was there any definite answer on if the '92 EZL made more power than the 94? You are swapping the 013- in place of an 014-, as both your cars have 014-'s, right? (Both my '95's have 015- EZL's, btw).

:5150:
 
400Eric said:
Maybe that's why we can't get anymore of them to show up at our racing days....... they don't want to be embarrassed by a "four-point-two! :stickpoke:
Say what?
Ok captain “Fast”, next day when the Twilight runs are available, we’ll see just how fast you are. :starwars:
 
gsxr said:
I jst read the last post - sounds good to me, if you have a set of wipers/arms/motors, that would be great! I'd take that in trade for the EZL.

Do you still have my address? It's still the same as when you sent the EZL.

gsxr said:
Which reminds me, was there any definite answer on if the '92 EZL made more power than the 94?

Do you mean the 93? As reported in this very thread, when comparing best ever uncorrected E/Ts, the 92 EZL holds the record, almost a full tenth quicker than any of my previous bests. That was on a killer D/A day though. (Comparing corrected E/Ts, it's a wash.) I'm still convinced that the 92 EZL is the ticket though. Also, as I mentioned before, it's also stronger in the part throttle low end torque department too.

gsxr said:
You are swapping the 013- in place of an 014-, as both your cars have 014-'s, right? (Both my '95's have 015- EZL's, btw).

Huh? What? You have seen my sig right? My E420 is a 95 just like yours. It has a 015- too just like yours. And as soon as I get that rancid gas out of there, put some good gas in and try that 92 EZL, I fear it's gonna run funky, just like yours did. I mean, it seems rather improbable that it is gonna behave any differently than your 95s did, right? BTW, you did try the 92 EZL in BOTH of your 95s, right? With the 92 LH ECU in place too, right?

szvook said:
Say what?
Ok captain “Fast”, next day when the Twilight runs are available, we’ll see just how fast you are. :starwars:

He lives! Stevo Devo! Where have you been?

I did say "half", not "all", and I do consider your car to be in the good, faster "half". The remark wasn't directed at you. You've gone there after all! The remark was more directed at the folks who have never been and don't try.

Having said all that, I'm game if you are! Your best ever E/T at that track is a 14.3 too right? (Yeah, I remember, you didn't really push it on that run!) Don't forget I'm a grizzled veteran at the tree! :tree:

There is gonna be a minor delay though. There is a reason why I've been racing my 300E lately instead of my 400E: some crazy guy busted the back window out of my 400E and I've been delaying getting it fixed till I get the restitution money. While I pride myself with being quite the do-it-your-selfer, I absolutely suck at and absolutely hate doing glass jobs. This is gonna be one job for a professional. Don't worry, Benzer 3 will be back and we will have our day, just not sure if it's gonna be at the very next date which is a week from this coming Saturday. (And yes, it's a Twilight date, the first of this season!)
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
He lives! Stevo Devo! Where have you been?
Working like a dog.

400Eric said:
I did say "half", not "all", and I do consider your car to be in the good, faster "half". The remark wasn't directed at you. You've gone there after all! The remark was more directed at the folks who have never been and don't try.
F-that, your ass is grass next time I show up and I'm making it my business to run only against you. :hornets:

400Eric said:
Having said all that, I'm game if you are! Your best ever E/T at that track is a 14.3 too right? (Yeah, I remember, you didn't really push it on that run!) Don't forget I'm a grizzled veteran at the tree! :tree:
True, but I will not hold back this time. How fast is your RT now?

400Eric said:
There is gonna be a minor delay though. There is a reason why I've been racing my 300E lately instead of my 400E: some crazy guy busted the back window out of my 400E and I've been delaying getting it fixed till I get the restitution money. While I pride myself with being quite the do-it-your-selfer, I absolutely suck at and absolutely hate doing glass jobs. This is gonna be one job for a professional. Don't worry, Benzer 3 will be back and we will have our day, just not sure if it's gonna be at the very next date which is a week from this coming Saturday. (And yes, it's a Twilight date, the first of this season!)
Regards, Eric
Sorry to hear that, how did the break happen, an irate neighbor or a driver you beat? So the next Twilight day is on Saturday, July 30? That's gonna be a hot day for sure, I better bring a lot of drinks again but I do not have a cooler, I hope if the the Sauce Man shows up he'll bring one. So unless I have to work, I'll be there. Let's hope we get more peeps to show up this time. If your 4.2 is not done by then, I'll give you a 2 second start in your 300E.
 
szvook said:
F-that, your ass is grass next time I show up and I'm making it my business to run only against you. :hornets:

Geeze, no need to be hostile. Perhaps that statement looks harsher in printed form than it was intended to be.

I will announce here when Benzer 3 will be returning back to action so you will be the first to know.

szvook said:
True, but I will not hold back this time. How fast is your RT now?

My quickest that I can find is a .021 though I may have some quicker ones somewhere. download/file.php?id=1768&mode=view
I also have a .022 and a .024 under my belt. On this run a .044 R/T won me the race against a quicker car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-YSBvjvO_4 That's why they call me "Captain Fast"!

szvook said:
Sorry to hear that, how did the break happen, an irate neighbor or a driver you beat?

A crazy guy in the Smart and Final parking lot. He got a face full of pepper spray, an arrest, a felony conviction, jail time, an order to pay restitution, and probation for his efforts. You make it sound like it was MY fault?!? Maybe it's just that printed word vs. spoken word thing again. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive.

szvook said:
So the next Twilight day is on Saturday, July 30? That's gonna be a hot day for sure, I better bring a lot of drinks again but I do not have a cooler, I hope if the the Sauce Man shows up he'll bring one.

I have a cooler that I can and will bring if you remind me right before that date.

I just talked to the Sauceman just last night and he's done with racing his 500E until he does the timing chain. He's scared he's gonna jump the chain and bend his valves.

He also doesn't want to bring the 525i again for obvious reasons. I even offered to let him run N2O on the 525i and pit that combo against the 300E but he's not interested.

The plan at this point is for him to bring his Dad's Titan and pit it against the 300E. That actually should make for some good, close, racing!

szvook said:
So unless I have to work, I'll be there. Let's hope we get more peeps to show up this time. If your 4.2 is not done by then, I'll give you a 2 second start in your 300E.

That's very generous of you! If I'm still in the 300E and I'm not racing the Titan, I'll take you up on that! :grouphug:
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
Geeze, no need to be hostile. Perhaps that statement looks harsher in printed form than it was intended to be.
:stirthepot: :duck:

400Eric said:
You make it sound like it was MY fault?!? Maybe it's just that printed word vs. spoken word thing again. Maybe I'm just overly sensitive.
Naw, not at all. I just threw out a few random reasons. Define "overly sensitive"?

400Eric said:
I have a cooler that I can and will bring if you remind me right before that date.
Kewl.

400Eric said:
If I'm still in the 300E and I'm not racing the Titan, I'll take you up on that! :grouphug:
Regards, Eric
Done. :cheers1:
 
400Eric said:
I have a cooler that I can and will bring if you remind me right before that date.
A cooler without cold suds inside of it is not a cooler at all. Some of this ought to hit the spot ...

09-01-22-06.jpg


Cheers,
Gerry
 
"Overly sensitive" as in mistaking razzing for flaming.

Um, Uncle Gerry, that stuff would adversely affect reaction times! Plus, I don't think that kind of stuff is allowed in the pits.

Don't forget everybody, the next date is a week from now and yes, it's a Twilight date!

Edit: Yes, it's true, no "suds" in the pits! http://www.autoclubspeedway.com/Tickets ... Rules.aspx
Regards, Eric
 
I won't be able to make it this weekend, but I will do my best to show up on the 30th, if anyone will go then. I wonder what kinds of accidents would happen on the track if alcohol was allowed. :lolhit:
 
It will give Captain Fast more time to get his 4.2 hoopty ready, that and this weekend is booked for me by two B-Day dinners. So I have to skip this weekend, unfortunately.
 
szvook said:
It will give Captain Fast more time to get his 4.2 hoopty ready...
Duuuude... it's a good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read that, or it would have been sprayed all over my nice LCD display. ROTFLMAO!!!!

:grouphug: :lolol: :grouphug:
 
Good thing Eric has an excellent sense of humour! No worries, we still love ya, Eric...

:woohoo:
 
That would just make it worse.

You guys forgot that Uncle Gerry turned me on to that "Urban Dictionary".

Honestly, I'd rather you guys insult my Mother than insult Benzer 3. For those who don't remember, or never knew, Benzer 3 was a beautiful, near pristine car when I got him, lacking only in one thing, nice headlight surrounds (or whatever they are called) to be considered perfect. It's not his fault that some nimrod t-boned him, causing over $6,000 in damage, while he was parked in front of our house. As much as I love that car, it would have been sheer stupidity to drop the $5,400 I got from the insurance settlement into fixing B3 at a time when the economy was sinking so fast that that kind of money would've bought me a decent 500E! (This was about the time that Justin scored his 500E for about $5,500!) Most folks would have just let the junkman haul this car off. I at least patched B3 back together as best I could (I'm an engine man, not a body man) and gave B3 a second chance at life as an ass kicking Hellion that also can and still does serve as a daily driver.

I stand by what I said, that B3 would kick the butts of about half of the 500E/E500s in existence. The only other one ever to show up at a track day was Kyle's 500E, on a day that I unfortunately didn't get to race cause the track reached it's 500 car quota and wouldn't sell any more racing passes. (The only time I've ever been locked out! Justin called and told me he was the LAST ONE to get in!) Kyle ran a best of 14.7 that day, in conditions where I run consistent 14.5s! It's really too bad we didn't get to line them up!

Honestly, I could care less how pretty a car is. In fact, I'm better off with a car that isn't pretty because any and every time I DO have a car that's pretty, some goofball nearly always Fs it up. B3 is like an "Iron Eagle" now, already "pre-disastered", I don't have to worry about some goofball Fing him up! That only happens to nice cars! I also can park anywhere I like, no worries about "parking lot dings" here. Hell, when it's hot, I can and do leave the windows all the way down when we park B3 so he'll stay cool inside, no worries about somebody stealing him or his contents (which we locate to the trunk anyways and set the alarm). It's quite liberating really, not having to worry about some "Queen". You guys should try driving a "Beater" sometime.

Plus, to me, it's way more gratifying to spank somebody who is piloting a nice, purdy car with a car that looks like a turd. It's more embarrassing to the victim that way! It's even better if he has his woman with him! ("Gee, you couldn't even beat that turd!)

So tell me, please, which one of these descriptions are you implying applies to our beloved Benzer 3?

1. hoopty 651 up, 42 down

Basically, a piece of shit car. Usually cheap and/or broken down. Can be any size, make or model, but must (or should) be embarrassing to drive for some reason, such as when you bump the stereo all the plastic "effects" you have hot-glued to the exterior rattle, instantly betraying the cheapness of your bling.

A hoopty can be anything from a '78 Cadillac Brogham with the panels missing in front of the brake lights (but replaced on only one side with duct tape), to a fine purple two-year old Hyundai Elantra with three spinner hubcaps and a vanity plate that reads BBY GRL.

The term has also been used in certain circles as an insult to one's boy or girlfriend, as in scrub or hoochie mama.
1. Can you believe he be gettin' all mad whenever somebody lean up against his old stupid hoopty.

2. I can see now you ain't nothin' but a hoopty.
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by Cello Mar 11, 2005 share this
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2. hoopty 238 up, 45 down

In reference to cars: a vehicle in poor condition, often large, boatlike, and aided by duct tape or bungee cords. Comes in two flavors, White Trash and Black Ghetto. See also: hoopty mobile.
Oh my god, check out the chick in that hoopty!
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by anonymous Feb 17, 2003 share this
3. hoopty 253 up, 115 down

An enormous boat of a vehicle usually sported by ghetto queens or hick adolescents. Almost always appears in lime or puke green, although bondo is my favorite look. The lack of power steering makes this dinosaur turn like a son of a gun! When seen in ghetto queen fashion, add 8-12 kids piled in every square foot of this gentle giant.

Known for incredibly loud mufflers... if any.
" Is big momma back from da' store with my hoopty?"

"Nice hoopty... Josh"
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by Saysitlikeitis Mar 18, 2004 share this
4. hoopty 113 up, 31 down

A hoopty is beat-up, piece of shit car with a rusted-out body, a bad transmission, and an engine that only runs on sunny days!
Can I borrow $2? I gotta put gas in my hoopty!
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by Pissed Off Paul Oct 8, 2003 share this
5. hoopty 97 up, 32 down

An automobile which is most likely older than it's owner, but not old enough to be an eye-catching classic. Sporting a very dull paint job and Psoriasis-like rust spots, do-it-yourself tints with more bubbles than a freshly opened champaign bottle, a fully installed racing drivers seat (with the other seats left stock and most likely broken/torn), 5" plastic (or for more well-off hoopty drivers, aluminium) rims bought at a local Wal-Mart, and a rice-class muffler which belches out a large jet ski like sound, possibly so that the driver can attract the attention of blind chicks who otherwise can't be disguised by the hideousness of this vehicle.
*Hoopty comes fart canning alongside to a chick walking with a blind tapping cane*

Driver: "Hey baby, need a ride?"
Chick: "What kind of car you got?"
Driver: "It's a Ford GT"
Chick: "Really!?"
Chick's friend: "He's lying. It's a 1986 Honda CRX. Let's take the bus instead"
by The Sub Oct 27, 2004

6. Hoopty 86 up, 34 down

A busted-ass gas-guzzling automobile. A big, old, rusty motherfucker that resembles a loud rusty 4-wheeled version of the fuckin "Love Boat" coming around a corner. Usually occupied by a bunch of wannabe gangsta's.
Busta #1: I'll sell you my hoopty for 5 dollars.
Busta #2: $5 for that bucket?!

by O.G. WILLAKER Feb 9, 2005
7. hoopty 81 up, 29 down

cheap, beat up car - originated with a dude named hoopty in dc who ran a used car lot. lots of young dudes there got their first car (cheap and beat up) from hoopty
 
Uh-oh. Better watch out, Steve... Eric might just quietly install 2.82's and outrun the 500E (which is theoretically possible, with the mods he has). I think you're right, the quotation marks may have helped. Eric, trust me, we're impressed at the performance you've gotten out of B3!

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