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* Let's have a test and tune day in So. Cal.

Well...I'm from Seattle and back in the day, one of the hometown favorites from my parts was Sir Mixalot (the rapper).

He made a song & video about Hoopties, and since the discussion has migrated to such .... here you go:

[youtube]cKF0o42F7yw[/youtube]

Cheers,
Gerry
 
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Ah, the inevitable backlash. Eric, my hoopty reference is also from the Sir Mix-a-Lot time, but back then in N.Y.C. we who didn’t have nice cars used the hoopty references towards cars that were better than ours, so we turned the hoopty word into a playful metaphor. Most of the time, the “hoopty” cars were European cars and in great condition, while we had huge and salt ridden old boats. I should have put hoopty in quotation to begin with. Are we gonna set some guidelines for acceptable humor, or we just play it by ear? :bartman:

Nice to see one taking his time to defend the car’s honor and yes, your car is worth the time to be defended. :cheers3:

I'm not sure why....but the phrase "Captain Hoopty" keeps creeping into my head. :whip2:
 
I'm still trying to get over the fact that Uncle Gerry is into rap "music"!

Who's going this weekend?
Regards, Eric
 
If you lived in Seattle in the 1980s and 1990s, Sir Mix-a-Lot was pretty much a phenomenon there. Whether you liked his music or not, you knew the local places he talked about in his songs. I'm sure 2Phast can attest to this as well.

Now, please excuse me while I cue up some NWA on my iTunes....

Cheers,
Gerry
 
I'm out. The truck is being commissioned elsewhere and the Hundy is down for at least a couple more weeks while I await parts.
 
OK 'vookster, looks like you and your 500E are the only thing holding back the scourge of the Four-Point-Hoop (nee Benzer 3). Our collective honor as .036 owners is at stake here....

Here's some more vintage (and very witty) Sir-Mix-a-Lot to get you in the mood....

Cheers,
Gerry

[youtube]J5KP1EOrJEY[/youtube]
 
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that is one heckuva rope around his neck, probably worth more than his Benz-O fleet...!

:wormhole:
 
Indeed I bet it weighs at least 10-12 pounds.

What I want to know is how you control a C126 sitting on the door going down the 101 ?!?
 
Well...there is a slight chance I might be able to make it, but will know for sure tomorrow afternoon. Must carry the .036 torch.

Eric, are you going regardless?
 
Uncle Gerry, Stevo, the remark I made about B3 being faster than half of the .036s out there was directed at the goofballs who never bother to show up. I was trying to motivate some of them to come.

I'm still only in the 300E for now so no worries. This was supposed to be a 300E vs. Titan day anyways. The thing is I really want to make it to this one cause the forecast high is only gonna be about 80 which is unheard of for this time of year. These temps we've been having have actually been breaking records! (Mid-90s are the norm in this area this time of year.) The problem is I have a fever of over 101 as we speak. Hoping this will pass quickly. I really want to go! I'm also hoping that the 405 closure will keep some people away, keeping the crowds down to a level where we'll be able to get a decent amount of runs in. Even a only 10% drop in turnout helps!

Anyways, let's hope this fever, and whatever is causing it, breaks soon!
Regards, Eric
 
Well I do have time for tomorrow. Eric, I hope you are feeling better. Let me know if you feel up to it by Saturday morning, if not, we can reschedule for the 30th.
 
Fever is only 99 today! I'm going! Don't expect my reaction times to be that great though.

There is also gonna be a turbo Volvo there for you to race too!
Regards, Eric
 
400Eric said:
Fever is only 99 today! I'm going! Don't expect my reaction times to be that great though.

There is also gonna be a turbo Volvo there for you to race too!
:spitter:...Doood, you're nuts! :respekt:

I'm beginning to suspect that this is some kind of pre-race ritual, cause last time I was at the track, you had a cold as well. Trade secret?

So how much water/drinks should I bring this time? Is it just you and I representing Benzes, at least from the boards? If so let me know so I won't need to get large cases like last time.
Is the Volvo the same one you took from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28ZYdfrMVs What's was your time on that run? Can you still bring the cooler and ice? And don't get me sick. :wormhole:

I'll try to be there by 12:30 or so and are you gonna be around the same place, closer to the bleachers? Do yo have my cell number? ...Did you feed the cat, cut the grass and clean the gutters? :duck:

Anywho, feel better man and I'll see you tomorrow.
 
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:spitter:...Doood, you're nuts! :respekt:

I'm beginning to suspect that this is some kind of pre-race ritual, cause last time I was at the track, you had a cold as well. Trade secret?

The last time you were there was last September, right? I had a cold then?

szvook said:
So how much water/drinks should I bring this time? Is it just you and I representing Benzes, at least from the boards? If so let me know so I won't need to get large cases like last time.

There will be just us 2 Benzes. I get SO frustrated that I can't get more Benzes to show up. There will also be 3 Volvos. We should share with them though cause they often share with us.

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Is the Volvo the same one you took from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28ZYdfrMVs What's was your time on that run?

Yes. The other 2 Volvos will probably be happy to line up with you too. You are gonna be a busy dude.

I ran a 14.499 on that run to his 14.2 but I won because of my vastly superior reaction time

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Can you still bring the cooler and ice?

Yes. Thanks for the reminder. I needed that.

szvook said:
And don't get me sick. :wormhole:

I don't think you need to worry cause I think this was caused by something I ate.

szvook said:
I'll try to be there by 12:30 or so and are you gonna be around the same place, closer to the bleachers? Do yo have my cell number? ...Did you feed the cat, cut the grass and clean the gutters? :duck:

I'm gonna try to be there as early as possible so I can get us as close to the lanes as possible. I do need your cell number. Everything's done except I didn't wash the car as I just don't feel up to it.

szvook said:
Anywho, feel better man and I'll see you tomorrow.

Thanks!
OK!
Regards, Eric
 
Yep, you said you had a cold back then. I'll play nice with the Swedes. My cell is 818.445.7254 and I'll bring enough drinks like last time; water, juice and soda. My car also hasn't been washed for a while and I'm just to drunk right now to go and wash it.
:alky:
 
Steve, I tried editing my last post last night and I also tried posting a new post but this site went haywire and I was unable too. I hope you get to see this before you go.

First, don't go too easy on those Swedes! They'll spank you if you do!

I got mixed up. The video you linked is NOT the Volvo I was talking about. That's the one that red lighted by a big .2 second, making him look faster than he really was. His best there so far (in that car) is a 15.5 but he has another Volvo that is good for low14s. The Volvo I was talking about is the other Black Volvo. That one has run a best of 14.1 so far.

I'll bet you the entry fee that my car is dirtier than yours is!

My cell is (951) 264-7937

Justin, please bring a good video recording device!
Glad you are coming!
Regards, Eric
 
A few E500-related GVZ dragstrip shenanigans.....

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[youtube]yrsRrWRmIBM[/youtube]

And a blown start.......

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A few E500-related GVZ dragstrip shenanigans.....

[youtube]lrPuR0r1R_0[/youtube]

[youtube]yrsRrWRmIBM[/youtube]

And a blown start.......

[youtube]LuyfNGFJk0g[/youtube]

Nice work. From your first vid, you ran a 14.52, what was the weather like?
 
Yo, 4.2...the weather is going to be 93°F this Saturday, are you going? Are you gonna wash your "hoopty" this time? I'm gonna wash "mine", lightly.
 
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Nice work. From your first vid, you ran a 14.52, what was the weather like?
Duuuuuude ... these movies were taken in late 2003 ... almost 8 years ago. I wish I could remember what I ate for dinner 8 nights ago, let alone the weather nearly 8 years ago :!: :blink:;-)
 
Are you guys planning anything late next month? I want to give it a go, I should be ready :)
 
The August 13th. date is up in the air for me, for now, I'll know more in 10 days or so. But I do plan to attend the September 3th. date, if the weather is not too blistering.

If no one will attend this Saturday, please say so, cause I don't plan on showing up on my own.
 
Yo, 4.2...the weather is going to be 93°F this Saturday, are you going?
Not likely... if it ain't 59°F with a roaring tailwind, he's usually not interested, lol. I think it would be interesting just to see what the cars do in the warmer ambients though.

:seesaw:
 
Not likely... if it ain't 59°F with a roaring tailwind, he's usually not interested, lol. I think it would be interesting just to see what the cars do in the warmer ambients though.

:seesaw:
Well, during the last September’s outing, it was around 97°F with no tail wind and we showed up and ran. I did not run a lot, since it was my first time in that type of weather, but Capt. Fast ran at least 5 times. Unless his 4.2 is not ready, maybe that will keep him away…although I doubt it.
 
I think it would be interesting just to see what the cars do in the warmer ambients though.

:seesaw:
Funny enough, my ET (and my trap speed) was faster back then than two weeks ago - .040 faster, and that was with the perforated air hoses, which Capt. Fast hates me using. :hornets: :buggin:
 
see what the cars do in the warmer ambients though.
Well now, that's pretty predictable, i'nt it? I mean, it's 0.1 second reduced time for each 10* increase in temperature ?!? :flush:

Vookster: I think you should use a 1995 S500 EZL with perforated hoses and document your times at 10-degree ambient temp intervals.....
 
The August 13th. date is up in the air for me, for now, I'll know more in 10 days or so. But I do plan to attend the September 3th. date, if the weather is not too blistering.

Excellent. Cross your fingers I get paperwork done (evil mad scientist laughter)
 
I am out for this weekend as the .036 still has a valve tick and the titan needs brakes. I am definitely in for the Sept. 3rd day though! Eric said he will go if anyone else is going, but hasn't updated his info for the site switch-over. I can tell him to call you.

I say y'all should race for the pink-slip to Benzer 3.:shocking:

Yes, Loser takes the car. :-O
 
Stevo, Sauceman, would it have killed you to file a race report in my absence?

Here's the short version for now, a little more when Casey (the S70 guy) posts the videos.

We got a good amount of runs in and the conditions were great! As the night wore on, it got downright chilly and we had a strong tailwind! My 2 favorite things! You goofballs that didn't come are gonna be crying cause it's likely that many if not all of the remaining dates from now until the end of September are gonna be too hot.

The 300E was slower today than it was in the past in poorer conditions. The only thing I can pin it down to is the fact that I didn't get to "Hot Lap" the car this time. Inexplicably, while my LH 400E HATES being hot lapped and slows down substantially when we try to do it, the 300E seems to love it and gets quicker! Another Volvo guy told me that K-jet cars will actually retard the timing when they are cold to try to warm up. Do you other folks with K-jet experience concur with that assessment? The car is running great with no dips, valleys, or hiccups of any kind in it's power delivery. Just really baffled at how, as the conditions got better, the car got slower. Sounds like what he said: As it got cooler, the CIS-E and EZL were pulling timing. The result of this was that the 300E couldn't catch Justin's Dad's stock Titan. (Remember, Justin doesn't want to run his 500E anymore until he does a timing chain job on it.) But we did get to spank Stevo's 500E using the 2 second handicap that he so graciously offered a few posts back. We also spanked him because he redlighted, so even if he didn't give us the 2 second handicap, we still won! (Still waiting for Spacey Casey to post the vid of that run.)

Since there is still so much ribbing going on, I should point out that even with the great conditions that we saw as the night wore on, Stevo's 500E still has not bettered the 14.3 that Benzer 3 has run. :eek::o:shocking::D:shock::razz::stickpoke::thumbsup2:;-):boxing:8-):cool:

Dave (yet another Volvo guy) got a mid-13 (almost low 13) and he got to spank Steve's 500E, which ran a best of 14.3x. (I should have brought my 400E this time!)

Casey was off his game a bit with a screwed up shifter (that he screwed up on the very next run right after our most recent race that has already been linked to this thread) so he didn't get to spank the 500E but came super close. There is a video of that run, it's super close just like the already mentioned races between my 400E and Casey were back in May. Still waiting for Casey to post the vids though. He has however, finally posted some of the videos from a few dates back that the Sauceman was supposed to post.
This is the view through the windshield of an E34 BMW when there is a W124 around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsaulCx5Sbs

Um, maybe if we switch lanes the BMW will do better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07MLtp6JCwg&feature=channel_video_title
Hey Sauceman, cut the exhaust off of the Bimmer and hack the intake restriction off of the entry to the intake tube, and let's have a rematch!

As far as this coming Saturday goes, like the Sauceman said, I'll go if someone else is going. I'm seeing forecast highs ranging from 95 to 99 at this point, I don't know who to believe because Dallas is M.I.A. this week and I don't trust anyone but Dallas! He's the MAN! Gotta say though that 99 is gonna suck donkey dicks. They are all saying that it is gonna be kinda humid too which is also gonna suck donkey dicks. So I'm really thinking to skip it but again, I'll go if someone else is going. With the Sauceman out Casey is probably also gonna be out, I talked to him tonight and his attitude is pretty much the same as mine: he'll go if others are going but he will probably only watch and take vids. I still have zero commitments from any of the other Volvo guys either for this next date too which leaves us with no one for Stevo to race. So I've gotta say it's not looking good at this point.
Regards, Eric
 
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Well, during the last September’s outing, it was around 97°F with no tail wind and we showed up and ran. I did not run a lot, since it was my first time in that type of weather, but Capt. Fast ran at least 5 times. Unless his 4.2 is not ready, maybe that will keep him away…although I doubt it.

From the first page in this very thread, here is my report from that day:

OK, it's the Rock and Roll Race Report for 9/18/10. (Anybody here in So. Cal. remember Uncle Joe Benson's Rock and Roll Race Reports?)

My adorable daughter brought a cold virus home to us and we've all been suffering from it except for Mommy who is as healthy as a horse, (she comes from good stock), so the family wound up staying home. I however, having already bunked out on the last few dates because of hot weather, wasn't about to do it again, sick or not, so I went, doped up on cold medicine (which tends to make me a little too twitchy at the starting line), but now I'm paying for that decision today, as now I'm even sicker, hence the late report.

First of all, I'm down right pissed about the fact that our group's cooler was stolen. Racers have always been and continue to be a brotherhood. For one of them to do this to one of their own is despicable. That cooler belonged to Justin's parents and now he has to buy them another one. It really put a damper on what was otherwise a fairly decent day.

I screwed up and didn't put enough toluene in my "witches brew" fuel mixture and my E/Ts suffered as a result just like they did the last time I didn't use enough toluene. I am now more convinced than ever that toluene helps my 11.0 to one compression M119.

Brent, the AMG C36 guy, was a no show, as was Kyle (She Loved E). BOOOOOOOO!!!!!

It was still our best turn out ever for Benzes! We had two 500Es, myself, and a crazy compound blown (turbocharged AND Supercharged) 82 300 SD that ran impressively well but I don't know if he wants to share his E/Ts or not though so I'll let him post them since they ARE HIS E/Ts to post, not mine. If he posts them on MercedesShop, I'll post them here. I will say though that I was impressed especially when you consider this is a big, heavy 300 SD, NOT a smaller W123 based car! I think that there's still more left in that car too! Edit: Well, the 300SD owner hasn't posted his E/Ts yet at MercedesShop but he has posted them here: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/...d-t-858-9.html at post number 447. He has already discovered what was holding the car back on the big end and will be running much quicker next time.

My best run of the day was an uncorrected 14.562 @ 97.45 which of course was when the air finally cooled down to a decent 69 degrees F. That was on a run against a modded Nissan Altima SE R that I smoked even though I let him have the lane of his choosing! That run was immortalized with our very own video camera (which I FINALLY brought) and I will post that video just as soon as Justin shows me how.

BTW, it's worth repeating that when we do use correction factors, they ARE NOT overly generous as the correction factor site is using temps that are from an airport that is a considerable distance to the west of the track and those temps are always cooler than the temps at the track are. This time the track temps were in the mid 90s while the "official" high temp of the day that they are using for corrections is only 88.

Another thing that was different this time is that I cleared B-3's error codes before I went to the track. Maybe I should go back to running with my C.E light on because my best E/Ts ALWAYS occur when my C.E. light is on!

I was trying an E-Bay chip (that I got from Justin) for the first time this time but I apparently didn't give it enough adaptation time cause it's not even remotely showing any kind of improvement yet. I'm gonna leave it in and let it get fully adapted in the very same 92 ECU that got me my best ever E/Ts the last time I was at the track and then pit it against another stock same year, same part number ECU (that I'm also gonna let get fully adapted to B-3) at the dyno day that Justin is organizing. That way we will know exactly what this chip is made of. One thing the chip does deliver on is the elimination of the rev limiter but not without still allowing a "hiccup" to occur at the spot where the stock rev limiter would normally kick in. I do believe this chip will still prove it's worth though.

It was cool meeting Steve! He's off to as good of a start as Justin was when he first started out in June, 2009!
R/T - .478
60’ – 2.245
330’ – 6.145
1/8 – 9.307 @ 77.73
1000’ – 12.041
1/4 - 14.340 @ 98.26

As for Justin and his performance, he did alright considering this was his first time at the track with the bottle and there were the expected teething problems.
60' - 2.173 (not his best, indicating wheelspin)
330' - 5.783
1/8 - 8.653 @ 86.28
1000' - 11.102
1/4 - 13.161 @ 108.99
Two things are worth mentioning though: One: cooler weather is coming, and two: so are drag radials. There is about to be a fundamental shift in the MB 5.0 liter world!

Guys, the next date is the end of October. That date is during the time of year when the weather could go either way. It might be a very cool day or a very warm one. Let's plan on leaving that day open and available just in case! I will post again in this thread as that date draws near.

Knappy BMWs! it was the breakdown of a BMW that caused one of the bigger delays of the day as it made quite a mess when it puked! Figures! Just felt compelled to mention that!
Regards, Eric
Here is the video of that Altima SE R 6 speed run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXINN9MpLvM

I failed to mention in that report that most of my earlier runs that day were pure crap because, in the interest of science, we had tried the chip in Benzer4's 95 ECU just to see if a 95 pig ECU could be made into a silk purse with the chip. It can't. I think I was still running that chipped 95 ECU till fairly late on that date, so it wasn't just cooling temps that got me back to my 14.5s, it was me pulling that knappy 95 ECU back out of Benzer3.

Also, that "hiccup" mentioned in that report has since disappeared. Maybe some adaptation time has helped. Who knows. The other thing is that chip does NOT eliminate the rev limiter, it just raises it about 300 RPM further up. We found that out at a later date.

You are right Stevo, I did have a cold that day, and now that I re-read the report, I remember!
Regards, Eric
 
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400Eric said:
Stevo, would it have killed you to file a race report in my absence?
No, just forgot. That and my play-by-play reporting is no where near as elaborate as yours.

400Eric said:
As far as this coming Saturday goes, like the Sauceman said, I'll go if someone else is going. I'm seeing forecast highs ranging from 95 to 99 at this point, I don't know who to believe because Dallas is M.I.A. this week and I don't trust anyone but Dallas! He's the MAN! Gotta say though that 99 is gonna suck donkey dicks. They are all saying that it is gonna be kinda humid too which is also gonna suck donkey dicks. So I'm really thinking to skip it but again, I'll go if someone else is going. With the Sauceman out Casey is probably also gonna be out, I talked to him tonight and his attitude is pretty much the same as mine: he'll go if others are going but he will probably only watch and take vids. I still have zero commitments from any of the other Volvo guys either for this next date too which leaves us with no one for Stevo to race. So I've gotta say it's not looking good at this point.
Regards, Eric

It looks like September 3rd. might be the better option, why don’t we just plan on that date and leave this Saturday alone? The Turbo Swedes were good for sure; at least I took one of them. The one Volvo I could not take was stripped down to only the driver’s seat and I forgot how much boost he was pushing, that and his car was 1000 lbs lighter...maybe I need to leave my spare tire and the backseats at home?

Ok, so I had a chance to go over my runs and here a few items to consider.
My 17” wheel/tire combo will slow down my revolutions by 0.2% from OEM 16" wheel/tire combo:

OEM 16”: 783.41 (486.5)
New 17”: 785.33 (487.69)
Difference: 1.92 (1.19) 0.2% - 65mph vs. 64.84 mph

I did run a higher MPH ET two weeks ago by a .5 MPH vs. last September, so I was putting more power down this time. The only change from last September was switching to Motul 5W-40 300V oil, which did claim slight power gains. My gas tank two weeks ago was ¾ full vs. last September when it was ¼ full and the car was much colder when I ran it then. So imho, it comes down to my technique, which I need to sharpen. Two weeks ago I went with the power braking technique, but did not get the RPM’s above 1500, which was too low, I think 2200 to 2500 RPM’s are better - but I don’t want to create additional heat in the tranny then needed. So I’m pushing my car a bit more at the top-end, now just need to get out of the whole quicker. Next time, ¼ tank of gas and maybe less power braking launches. My trap speed from last September was faster and I did not power brake that time.

My blown start was my proudest moment so far, I was timed at .005 - almost but no cigar. Sub 14’s is now my goal and I aim to reach it. I do need to run against the 2 second lead time again and see what’s what, but I doubt you will take the 300E over the 4.2 to the track. But if you do, I’m game again.

Sub 14’s is now my goal and I aim to reach it.

:blower:
 
FYI, you can't power-brake above approx 1800rpm, the stock torque converter won't allow it. A launch at 1500rpm is plenty, this really has minimal effect on your ET. For the best ET you need *zero* wheelspin, so if you are getting even a chirp at takeoff, work on fixing that (drop tire pressure as low as 20psi if necessary). Wind speed & direction can affect both ET and MPH, ideally you'd have a tailwind, or at least zero wind. Remember that reaction time doesn't affect the ET or MPH so ignore that unless you're bracket racing or grudge racing.

You'll have a hard time getting below 14 seconds without dumping weight (spare tire, complete trunk contents including carpets/jack/tools/etc), pulling the complete rear seat, arriving with ~4 gallons of gas in the tank, etc. BT, DT. Also make sure you are shallow staging (just BARELY turn on the second staging bulbs), this will also help both ET and MPH.

:3gears:
 
FYI, you can't power-brake above approx 1800rpm, the stock torque converter won't allow it. A launch at 1500rpm is plenty, this really has minimal effect on your ET. For the best ET you need *zero* wheelspin, so if you are getting even a chirp at takeoff, work on fixing that (drop tire pressure as low as 20psi if necessary). Wind speed & direction can affect both ET and MPH, ideally you'd have a tailwind, or at least zero wind. Remember that reaction time doesn't affect the ET or MPH so ignore that unless you're bracket racing or grudge racing.

You'll have a hard time getting below 14 seconds without dumping weight (spare tire, complete trunk contents including carpets/jack/tools/etc), pulling the complete rear seat, arriving with ~4 gallons of gas in the tank, etc. BT, DT. Also make sure you are shallow staging (just BARELY turn on the second staging bulbs), this will also help both ET and MPH.

:3gears:
I did not get any chirps so far with tires at normal PSI. But did get the ASR on one run two weeks ago when I ran against the Volvo that I did beat and since my win was by a slight margin, the ASR accounted for that and only during that run I did not enable the Tire switch...:banger:. Otherwise, normal PSI in the rear and wider tires seems to be working for me.

My shallow staging is not bad; I have managed to trip the second bulbs just barely each time. I might forego the power barking approach in general, the more I read about is the less I need it. So it seems with my car at normal weight with ¾ tank of gas, rear seats, tools, spare tire, less revolutions and wider tires I can still hit 14.3…which is not bad. R.B. Tech’s work was not in vain. :e500launch:
 
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Ooops, I forgot to mention that, but you already know about it - flip the snow chain switch on when launching. This helps keep ASR from triggering and killing your launch. When ASR engages, it generally slows the ET by about two tenths, but has zero effect on your MPH. You never want to see ASR engage. I don't turn off ASR though, as if you did happen to spin up one tire, you'll slow down *much* more than two tenths...! Better to have a 14.5 run on ASR than a 15.0+ run smoking a tire.

Power braking moderately won't hurt anything, and in general I recommend it... roughly a 1000-1500rpm launch. Don't fret over the exact launch RPM, it has much more effect on your reaction time, and near zero effect on the ET. I do it by sound/feel as you don't have enough time to adjust RPM's precisely after staging, before the 'tree starts. You can practice this easily in a parking lot; pretend you're looking at the 'tree, and power brake to where it sounds/feels correct. Hold it there and then look at the tach to see what the actual RPM is. Repeat as needed until you can get it in that 1250 ± 250rpm sweet spot.

Dumping the spare tire, trunk contents, back seat, and light fuel load will drop your ET by roughly 2 tenths. A ~10mph tailwind and cool engine (~60C on the gauge) will put you right on the 14.00-13.99 bubble. Remember that you'll need a helmet if you run 13.99 or quicker... SNELL 2000 is ok through December 2011, as of Jan-2012 you'll need a SNELL 2005 or newer.

:tree:
 
Ooops, I forgot to mention that, but you already know about it - flip the snow chain switch on when launching. This helps keep ASR from triggering and killing your launch. When ASR engages, it generally slows the ET by about two tenths, but has zero effect on your MPH. You never want to see ASR engage. I don't turn off ASR though, as if you did happen to spin up one tire, you'll slow down *much* more than two tenths...! Better to have a 14.5 run on ASR than a 15.0+ run smoking a tire.

Power braking moderately won't hurt anything, and in general I recommend it... roughly a 1000-1500rpm launch. Don't fret over the exact launch RPM, it has much more effect on your reaction time, and near zero effect on the ET. I do it by sound/feel as you don't have enough time to adjust RPM's precisely after staging, before the 'tree starts. You can practice this easily in a parking lot; pretend you're looking at the 'tree, and power brake to where it sounds/feels correct. Hold it there and then look at the tach to see what the actual RPM is. Repeat as needed until you can get it in that 1250 ± 250rpm sweet spot.

Dumping the spare tire, trunk contents, back seat, and light fuel load will drop your ET by roughly 2 tenths. A ~10mph tailwind and cool engine (~60C on the gauge) will put you right on the 14.00-13.99 bubble. Remember that you'll need a helmet if you run 13.99 or quicker... SNELL 2000 is ok through December 2011, as of Jan-2012 you'll need a SNELL 2005 or newer.

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Yeah, the chain switch did affect how close the race was. My RT time was slower then the Volvo's by .020, although at the 60' mark I was ahead by .020 (the car pulled hard, love it!!!) and I never trailed again. I might get a used helmet from Ralph for the next race day...I'll use it as my incentive to break 14 seconds.

I'll go out at night and practice with power-braking and normal launches, cause I feel in normal mode, the first gear is held longer and allows for a longer launch.
 
Stevo, loose the headlight panels and the funky perforated intake tubes and you should be able to see your 13. Also try some lighter wheels. Do all the things that Dave said too (our Dave, not Volvo Dave) with the exception of the power braking. Just "flash" the converter instead.

Yeah, that wagon is stripped pretty good but he drives it daily like that! He get's the award for "Most Improved" though. The last time he was there, he only pulled a high 14!

Weight reduction isn't just for Volvo guys. This C36 pilot spanks me because he also takes all of the seats out save for the driver's seat, while I don't even bother because fighting with my daughter's safety seat is too big a PITA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa5h4fq2Jkg (So yes, I'm often running even more "seat weight" than stock because her seat is still back there along with the stock seats.) In that race, I actually got him off the line but he quickly caught me with his lighter weight and lower gearing. (Still, being able to even hang with a legitimate AMG with a knappy, lowly, run of the mill 400E hooptie is no small feat!) I would love to match that C36 pilot up with Casey as obviously they would be a great race but something must be going on in his life right now because he is M.I.A.

I sometimes also leave some stuff in the trunk because I sometimes have traction problems if I don't leave some ballast back there. Yeah, it might cost me a tenth, but not having anything back there at all sometimes costs me way more E/T than that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmg0D4YAfM&feature=channel_video_title (Yes, Justin of course busted his ass to get that video posted right away!)

All in all though all of you who went have to admit that it was a pretty fun day!

I think I could be talked out of this Saturday because it's becoming fairly obvious that the conditions are gonna suck but I'm not gonna flush the August date until we know what the conditions on that day are gonna be like. While it is likely that the conditions will be bunk on that day too it's not a certainty. So when it comes to the August date we will just have to wait and see. If it's gonna be a decent day, I'm not gonna want to miss it. You have to remember that I LOVE the twilight dates, and we only have 2 more left after this Saturday. (The August date and the first September date.)
Regards, Eric
 
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1) Steve already has very lightweight HRE wheels and lightweight tires... he's all set there.

2) Flashing the converter vs power braking makes almost no difference. I specifically tested this recently. If anything, there is a sliiiiight advantage to power braking moderately, but there's no need to hold it up against the stall speed.

3) I agree the perforated tubes are probably not helping. I'm less convinced about the headlight panels, but it doesn't hurt to slot them or remove them.


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The headlight panel removal mod also needs for additional sheet metal to be removed behind the panels to truly allow the air get back there and I’m not too keen on cutting that in my car. Plus that sheet metal helps to support the headlights from the bottom and I would hate for my Euro headlights to bounce around…I think they are worth a “tad” more than two tenths of a second at the track.

The perforated intake hoses are not hindering the car’s performance, so far my best ET was with them and that was on a warmer day then two weeks ago. Plus they are less restrictive compared to the OEM hoses not to mention that the air flow generated from the wider-gaped grill insert as well as the viscous fan’s air is being picked up by the perforated slots which are closer to the front. Also, with these hoses, I have noticed the time it takes to turn off the auxiliary fans in hot weather has dropped compared to OEM hoses. Either way, I’ll keep bringing both hoses to the track to play with.

Any lighter wheels then my HRE 546 in 17” sizes will cost way more and most likely be Magnesium or a Carbon Fiber/Aluminum mix, which HRE does carry and they cost so much more per wheel, quote from HRE: “They will initially be available in both a 19″ and 20″ wheel, and can be expected to cost $2,500-$4,000/wheel ($10,000-$16,000/set), although final price is yet to be determined. The 20 inch wheel is expected to weigh in at just 21lbs.” So as Dave put it – I’m all set there, my front wheels weigh 16.5 lbs and rear wheels weigh 18.5 lbs and the 245 and 275 Conti Extreme Contact DW tires weigh less then OEM 16" tires. If anything, its the wider tires that might play into more drag results vs. narrower tires.

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Steve, the headlight trim panels are mostly decorative... the only structural function they perform is to provide a place for the washer nozzle to attach. But the panels don't do anything to hold the headlamp in place; it's actually the reverse - the headlamp holds the trim panel in place! For the record, I wouldn't want to remove them, as the car would look odd without them. I do like the slotted panels though, as shown here. Also, no trimming of sheet metal is needed; the air flows around the headlamp just fine. I'm still not convinced any of this makes any real change in power though. Ditto on the perforated tubes - if there is already little to no restriction in the tubes, adding perforations won't do anything, but they do let warmer air into the engine, which isn't ideal.


On my cars, the following items made significant improvements in dragstrip performance (i.e., at least 1 tenth ET and 1mph trap speed, for each item, except LSD):
- 92 LH module (when used on 93-up models)
- Lighter wheels/tires
- Weight reduction (remove spare tire, trunk contents, etc)
- Tail wind of at least 5mph (compared to no wind)
- Limited-slip diff (ONLY if you cannot eliminate wheelspin with the stock diff)


The following items showed zero, or nearly zero, change (although Eric may dispute a few of these - sorry, Capt!):
- Headlight panels removed or slotted
- Catalyst removal
- Y-pipe in place of resonator
- Aftermarket muffler
- Aftermarket chip for LH module
- High-flow K&N or ITG air filters
- High volume airbox
- 100 octane race fuel
- Tolune added to fuel, or any other octane booster
- Icing the intake manifold or airbox in the staging lanes
- Using resistors to 'fool' the ECU into thinking the engine is cooler
- Blowing on the windshield while going down the 'strip


Use a '92 module, dump as much weight as you can, keep the engine as cool as possible, eliminate wheelspin, and hope there's a tailwind. That's the recipe for the best ET possible from your car.

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the headlight trim panels are mostly decorative... the only structural function they perform is to provide a place for the washer nozzle to attach. But the panels don't do anything to hold the headlamp in place
Good to know.

Use a '92 module, dump as much weight as you can, keep the engine as cool as possible, eliminate wheelspin, and hope there's a tailwind. That's the recipe for the best ET possible from your car.
Aside from dumping addition weight and not having any control over the wind, the rest I have covered. The only air mod I might do, down the road, will be cutting hood vents on the left and right sides, or one slot across the back of the hood and maybe find a way to switch the air box around. The perforated intake hoses will continue to be tested on the track for their impact...cause if don't bring them, Eric will have nothing to bitch about...at least I open my hood after each run to cool the engine, which did make Eric happier. Although with the open hood, the engine collected a load of dust.
 

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