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Outside Transmission Tunnel Insulation Sticker Shock (2016)! - Now NLA

DerFuror

500E Terminus Illuminatus
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ADMIN EDIT: This item has been NLA since somewhere around 2017-2018.

$150? Yikes! :shocking:

Might have to pattern & fabricate one based on the sorry, soggy carcass of my current one.

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(...$150 can buy a lot of orings...)
 
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Glad you're replacing that, Mr. Proactive !!

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500E trans tunnel insulation has been superceded to p/n 124-682-45-01 which is the .034 version, but it works / fits in the .036 chassis.

Current MSRP is $202. Naperville has it for $150. You will probably need to cut a hole for the O2 sensor connector - not as fun as it sounds, trust me.

I would not even consider attempting to make your own. When you see the new one, you'll understand why. It's not supposed to be a soft, fluffy item.

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Current MSRP is $202. Naperville has it for $150. You will probably need to cut a hole for the O2 sensor connector - not as fun as it sounds, trust me.

On the item I received, the O2 sensor hole cover is pre-perforated for removal. A couple quick snips with my lockblade easily removed it. I transferred this hole cover to the opposite side to fill an existing unnecessary hole. Glued it in place.

I also removed two rectangular covers allowing the evaporator condensation drain tubes to protrude.

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Nice to see they fixed it! The ones I received did NOT have the pre-perforated cutout... there were others in the wrong location. I suspected it was a defect but it was easier to just cut the blasted hole. Photo below showing old+new, note the pre-perforated stuff is not even close to the proper location for the O2 sensor.

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Nice to see they fixed it! The ones I received did NOT have the pre-perforated cutout... there were others in the wrong location. I suspected it was a defect but it was easier to just cut the blasted hole. Photo below showing old+new, note the pre-perforated stuff is not even close to the proper location for the O2 sensor.
Could it be, that perhaps the Great GSXR ordered the wrong part? :stickpoke:


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Could it be, that perhaps the Great GSXR ordered the wrong part? :stickpoke:
Nope. Same part number as Derf ordered. This was about 4-5 years ago. I asked the dealer to forward my complaint, someone further up the food chain faxed them the engineering drawings for the part. I assumed nothing was ever done, but maybe someone did check and say "ooops". Regardless, I'm just glad they fixed the manufacturing screwup. It's not as easy as you'd think to cut a clean hole in that insulation.

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....I would not even consider attempting to make your own. When you see the new one, you'll understand why. It's not supposed to be a soft, fluffy item.

:wormhole:

+1 absolutely. $150 for a new one is actually very reasonable and to me is a no brainier if (or when) you pull your tranny out.



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What is the main purpose of that insulation? Protect against heat, sound or both? If it protects against heat, any idea what is the maximun temperature the insulation has to resist in order to provide a good protection? Given the fact that the insulation is NLA and there are no aftermarket versions, I have to make my own... I imagine it will not be easy but I have time and patience 😅
 
I believe this blanket provides some thermal damping, as well as some slight noise insulation.

Courtesy of our member the @IslandMon, I was able to purchase a NOS example, which just arrived today. This is the .034 version, which the original E500E version was superseded to.

In the interest of helping the community, I would be more than willing to make this example avaialble to someone, if they had a means to get it faithfully reproduced for the benefit of those who need it.

Here are some photos of the insulation, as received from @IslandMon.

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What is the main purpose of that insulation? Protect against heat, sound or both? If it protects against heat, any idea what is the maximun temperature the insulation has to resist in order to provide a good protection? Given the fact that the insulation is NLA and there are no aftermarket versions, I have to make my own... I imagine it will not be easy but I have time and patience 😅

To my understanding is this cover for noise reduction; Abdämpfung.

MBoemparts list it at $144.30 Insulation 124-682-45-01 | MB OEM Parts
 
Again, just because an aftermarket parts catalog lists it, doesn’t mean it is available. This is why I included the screen shot from MB Classic Parts, showing that the part is officially NLA.

I trust the word of MB Classic over an aftermarket parts catalog unaffiliated with MB.

If you tried to actually order this part, it would accept the order. Then they would notify you that it is NLA and cancel the order.

My local dealer’s REVPARTS catalog lists it for $140.40. But again, it is NLA.
 
OK, thanks for the update, Gerry!
So the link I picked up was just another outdated and misleading "internet reflection" which pops up all the time. Makes me think - do they never clean up their websites...😒
 
Well, these are aftermarket catalogs from a company called RevolutionParts, which manages a lot of auto manufacturers' catalogs.

I think it is updated, when they receive notification that a part is unavailable. But it is very very inconsistent and can lag the actual NLA date even by years.

For something like this transmission tunnel blanket, which probably does not have very much demand, they probably never received notification that it's NLA, because nobody ordered one.

You should bookmark this site on your browser -- it is the best site there is (MB Classic Parts) to determine whether a part is available or not, and is usually updated by MB within 1-5 days after the actual NLA status of a given part: meta_title

To search for a part, put an "A" in front of the part number, and no spaces in the part number.
 
Well, these are aftermarket catalogs from a company called RevolutionParts, which manages a lot of auto manufacturers' catalogs.

I think it is updated, when they receive notification that a part is unavailable. But it is very very inconsistent and can lag the actual NLA date even by years.

For something like this transmission tunnel blanket, which probably does not have very much demand, they probably never received notification that it's NLA, because nobody ordered one.

You should bookmark this site on your browser -- it is the best site there is (MB Classic Parts) to determine whether a part is available or not, and is usually updated by MB within 1-5 days after the actual NLA status of a given part: meta_title

To search for a part, put an "A" in front of the part number, and no spaces in the part number.
What I find is unavailable parts either come up in a search but without a price, or don't come up at all (i.e. "No results"). This is annoying, because of you receive "No results", you don't know if you had the correct part number.
 
Hi guys

on my brothers car this blanket sagged so much that the driveshaft started rubbing against it and at a 200kmph joy ride it caught fire. It was very hard to extinguish the fire even on a scissor lift. On a side of the road the car would be burnt to the ground. This is also pretty common on W140s for this blanket to lay on the driveshaft. I recommend checking it once a year to be sure the car is ready for some high speed runs.
 
I recall taking a great amount of satisfaction in replacing this item. Installing it (along with eliminating associated tranny leaks) made me truly feel like I had a "new" car in good stead.

Over the years, this insulation blanket deteriorates, then starts absorbing any leaking fluids & road detritus that flows its way. It then sags under this additional weight. Someone told me of one sagging to the point where it came into contact with the driveshaft, wrapped around the driveshaft at speed & was violently ripped out. I didn't want to go there. I chose to live vicariously thru that story & not by experience.

I imagine many E500E tranny insulation blankeys existing out there are sporting a certain degree of "rattiness" & could benefit by replacement.
 
Hi guys

on my brothers car this blanket sagged so much that the driveshaft started rubbing against it and at a 200kmph joy ride it caught fire. It was very hard to extinguish the fire even on a scissor lift. On a side of the road the car would be burnt to the ground. This is also pretty common on W140s for this blanket to lay on the driveshaft. I recommend checking it once a year to be sure the car is ready for some high speed runs.


Certainly the rubbing insulation could cause some issue, but keep in mind several of these cars died due to a fire, not caused by the rubbing insulation on the drive shaft but overfilled automatic transmissions which are throwing out the excessive oil through the breather at good speed and heat onto the hot exhaust and catalytic converters. In Germany happened to a couple of the v8's but also to some of their more potent pedestrian brethren.
 
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