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All I have is the threaded rubber buffer and the nut.Flat side up. There should be a rubber grommet on the post they screw into. The feet on the air box slides between the two.
Flat side up! The airbox slides onto the pin that's facing downwards.View attachment 185196How do these air cleaner nuts go on? Flat side up or flat side down?
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SCORE!!A 1993 500SEL showed up in the junkyard today. I was already off work today and was the first one there.
I got a big haul of stuff.
The 140 chassis with 5.0L engine use a different rear end than the 4.2L cars, you wouldn't want that anyway.Unfortunately it was an asr car so i didn't take the rear end.
The cam bearing caps lock the tubes in place. You must remove the cam bearing caps first, 1-2 at a time... then carefully pry out the oil tube, then re-install those cam bearing caps, then move on to the next ones. Repeat.Also I tried for hours to remove the original metal cam oilers but was unable to. Each and every one broke the metal tips off, even when using extreme care and delicate prying to remove. I gave up after trying one side. Is this normal?? what in the hell? Engine did have 200k+ miles and was pretty carboned up.
The 140 was in-famous for being the pinnacle of technical complexity. Rumor has it the 140 went so over budget, it was largely responsible for the bean counters sending the engineers off to solitary confinement, and cost-cutting ramped up dramatically for chassis developed afterwards (think 210, 203/208, 220, 230). Could also be urban legend.Overall I've never been deep into a w140, all I can say is WOW. I love the heavy feel of the build quality but these things are damn complicated. I want one but I can't imagine trying to restore one of these and keep everything working. The engine isn't the problem, its everything else. Compared to the W124 V8's its night and day level of complication.
Somewhat stupid example but just look at the tail light bulb housing. W124 vs W140.
omfg thats embarrassing about the cam baring caps. I thought it was just a friction fit with the rubber oringSCORE!!
The 140 chassis with 5.0L engine use a different rear end than the 4.2L cars, you wouldn't want that anyway.
The cam bearing caps lock the tubes in place. You must remove the cam bearing caps first, 1-2 at a time... then carefully pry out the oil tube, then re-install those cam bearing caps, then move on to the next ones. Repeat.
The 140 was in-famous for being the pinnacle of technical complexity. Rumor has it the 140 went so over budget, it was largely responsible for the bean counters sending the engineers off to solitary confinement, and cost-cutting ramped up dramatically for chassis developed afterwards (think 210, 203/208, 220, 230). Could also be urban legend.
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Yeah, it looks like that is a direct bolt in. 2.65 gears will be a nice improvement. I'm running 3.06 gears in mine. Huge difference, but if you were going to run 80+ on the freeway much it might be a bit buzzy. 2.82 is also an option. Just depends how you intend to use the car.I am on the hunt for a 2.65 differential. I found a 1991 500SL not too far away.
I looked up the VIN and it appears that this is a NON ASR car? This is good, my 400e is non asr.
This should bolt in right? What am I missing?
this is a daily driver and i'd like to keep a good balance of fuel economy. I do intend to use it on long road trips so I'm between the 2.65 and 2.82. I also plan to keep the stock wheels and I wonder if the tires will constantly break loose with the 2.82 or higher (and no asr).Yeah, it looks like that is a direct bolt in. 2.65 gears will be a nice improvement. I'm running 3.06 gears in mine. Huge difference, but if you were going to run 80+ on the freeway much it might be a bit buzzy. 2.82 is also an option. Just depends how you intend to use the car.
Mine doesn't break traction unless I want it to or if the road is especially slick. Even so, if fuel economy is a concern, 2.65 will be a great choice.this is a daily driver and i'd like to keep a good balance of fuel economy. I do intend to use it on long road trips so I'm between the 2.65 and 2.82. I also plan to keep the stock wheels and I wonder if the tires will constantly break loose with the 2.82 or higher (and no asr).
Yep, 100% mechanical bolt-in, but you may need to use the W124 ASR speed sensors... the wires are several inches longer. I don't know if the R129 wires will reach or not. EDIT: That is for ASR... not sure about the single sensor wire length on non-ASR.I am on the hunt for a 2.65 differential. I found a 1991 500SL not too far away.
I looked up the VIN and it appears that this is a NON ASR car? This is good, my 400e is non asr.
This should bolt in right? What am I missing?
My 400e is non asr, based on the vin search this 500sl should be non asr as wellYep, 100% mechanical bolt-in, but you may need to use the W124 ASR speed sensors... the wires are several inches longer. I don't know if the R129 wires will reach or not. Then you need a YellowBox or similar speedo conversion behind the cluster. I prefer Yellr because it's small enough to fit behind the cluster and is a simple 4-wire connection. Must be for inductive sensors NOT for Hall sensors.
I'm sure Dave meant ABS pinion speed sensor, but he's right, the wire may be a different length.Yep, 100% mechanical bolt-in, but you may need to use the W124 ASR speed sensors... the wires are several inches longer. I don't know if the R129 wires will reach or not. Then you need a YellowBox or similar speedo conversion behind the cluster. I prefer Yellr because it's small enough to fit behind the cluster and is a simple 4-wire connection. Must be for inductive sensors NOT for Hall sensors.
YES! Sorry... I'm so used to ASR with the E500E, I forget about the non-ASR models. Check the single ABS sensor wire length on non-ASR. Should be easy to swap if needed.I'm sure Dave meant ABS pinion speed sensor, but he's right, the wire may be a different length.
Note there is a different size O-ring for metal-body sensors, vs plastic body. There is an EPC error where the metal-body O-ring is not shown for the 036 chassis. I forget if the 034 EPC shows both. You must remove the sensor to see which type it is.One word of advice there. Get a new speed sensor O ring from MB when you do the job. It's not a common size, and if you don't replace it you'll likely have a leak. If you install one that's a bit too big, you may have problems with the sensor air gap causing the ABS to act up.
I had both problems until I installed the correct new o ring.
Yes, it has to be spliced in. One thing I've done when I need to splice a wire is to go to the nearest connector, unpin it, and de-solder the pins that need the splice, then use the solder joint at the pin as the splice point. If you're concerned about being able to return it to stock, this is a good option. Another possibility would be to create your own breakout harness if you can find the plastic connectors and pins needed to do so.I’ve reached out to yellow box, it looks like they offer a custom plug n play harness for some models. Do you all just splice it in? I hate to cut factory wiring but I will if I need to. Going to go ahead and get one on order
I only had to cut 1 wire behind the cluster and splice each end into the Yellr... that's the source signal, so it becomes the input to Yellr, then there's a modified output back to the speedo.I’ve reached out to yellow box, it looks like they offer a custom plug n play harness for some models. Do you all just splice it in? I hate to cut factory wiring but I will if I need to. Going to go ahead and get one on order
Vampire taps are a most evil invention. I hate them.The other 2 wires are switched (+) and (-) power supply which can be sourced with vampire-style taps, without cutting anything.
Totally agree... I should have clarified, I meant using the good stuff like dreaming.haze shows in post #226.Vampire taps are a most evil invention. I hate them.
Easy to use for sure, but down the road when you have intermittent electrical issues, odds are good the vampire taps are to blame. I've seen a ton of cases where vampire taps have become loose or corroded and caused all kinds of problems.
Yes! Use those.I'd recommend some Posi-taps for this job. Better than the vampire clips by far and no cutting of the factory harness for the spice.
Somewhat stupid example but just look at the tail light bulb housing. W124 vs W140.
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Very interesting I’d love to know why they differ? That makes no senseJust FYI - the rear bulb housing for Euro W124s are equally complicated. The difference is in the design. The w140 and the euro w124 bulb housing uses die cut flat metal tracks for both positive AND negative connection for each bulb. The US w124 housing uses a central ground “bus” with positive wires for each bulb hidden under the face of the bus. The design is probably cheaper to make.
Are there actual reported recent failures of the TRW ball joints? How many? Most peach parts posts on this are from back in 2013. That is 11 years ago.See if you can pinpoint the source of the popping noise. This isn't good, I wouldn't drive it until you figure out what's going on there.
You'll need to take the LCA's off and evaluate the condition of the ball joint. If it's tight with zero play, and there's no evidence of dirt / moisture / corrosion... I'd gamble on adding fresh grease and installing new boots. (This assumes the popping noise is NOT from the ball joint, btw.)
If there is play in the joint, you'll have to replace the LCA. Ideally you locate a pair of good used late LCA's with tight joints, re-grease / reboot etc.
Dang that's crazy - is it the same with the E500E? (ball joint not replaceable) Good to learn about thisUnfortunately the 400E uses the "late" style LCA with non-replaceable ball joints... AND, there are no good aftermarket replacements available. Lemforder does not make the late LCA, only the early style. This is why, if the late ball joints are still tight, it's worth refreshing the existing late LCA's. New aftermarket ball joints may have a shorter lifespan than the old OE ball joints!
Yes and no. Early 500E's had smaller (300x28mm) front brakes with "early" LCA's and replaceable ball joints. This was through most of 1993 USA model year production.Dang that's crazy - is it the same with the E500E? (ball joint not replaceable)
Yes - only a replacement boot kit is available. If the joint is tight and no water or dirt has entered, you can wipe it clean, add some fresh grease, and reboot it. I have several late LCA's with over 200kmi where the ball joint is still tight. This is sort of odd, as the replaceable ball joints don't often last that long. I don't understand the difference in design that allows the late style to have a longer lifespan.Sounds like (from above) there is a rebuild kit for the ball joint. Basically new boot / clip, where you can pack the grease.
Holy crap the Gedore and klann compressors are over $1,000 from what I can tell! I’m not dropping that kind of money.Just read through the whole thread and wanted to give you kudos, @natejgreene9871! Your car is beautiful and wow. Love the dedication to making things right. I mean - you started your adventure with having to drill the steering lockWhat a way to kick things off!
The strut mounts are a piece of cake. As shared, you don't need a spring compressor - but if you have some budget, you might look at the Gedore unit that superceded the old Klann Tools one. I ordered a knockoff spring compressor from eBay and ended up throwing it in the garbage, it was just dangerous. I found a used Miller / Klann Tools set on eBay and it was worth every cent.
Back to strut mounts... I put a bottle jack under the control arm and replaced my shocks / strut mounts that way. Hopefully, the 400E isn't too much different than what I went through. It took me about an hour of actual work time to do both sides.
I've had multiple service advisors (before I could turn a wrench) share horror stories about the "strut mount failing and the spring popping the hood open". The spring isn't even involved (I was an idiot for listening to them), it's just the shock/strutI guess it could eventually break that rubber and go through. You'd have to be driving off a massive ledge though, IMO.
Yup. They are NOT cheap. I've got a used one somewhere that I need to list for sale for about half that much, but that's still a lot more than the $100 specials from China.Holy crap the Gedore and klann compressors are over $1,000 from what I can tell! I’m not dropping that kind of money.
You MUST get the type that goes through the center of the spring. The type that connects to the outside of the spring will not work well, if at all.Should I get a spring compressor where the shaft goes through the center of the spring? Or one where the tightening shaft is on the outside of spring with plates sticking out?
Not sure if the verdict is out of SFarroqa's ETA rebuilding service, but I saw this and decided to put this here:sfarooqa
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No idea on reputation, but quality seems pretty decent.
Mine is still working good for what it’s worthNot sure if the verdict is out of SFarroqa's ETA rebuilding service, but I saw this and decided to put this here:
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Great suggestion!!!!Nate try to use your floor jack directly under the ball joint and unload the spring compressor a little. It might bring the compressor back into alignment with the hole. Slow and easy!
I remember having this exact same problem before with @RicardoD when replacing shocks. This is what we did to avoid getting the tool rod thing jammed in the hole in the lower control arm.This is why I hate messing with springs. Maybe someone here can explain what I’m doing wrong.
Basically, the spring is elbow macaroni shaped and you are trying to put a straight spring compressor through it. It always jams up in the small lower control arm hole to where I can’t even get a socket on it.
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