Evo 2 machine faced wheel images (Maxilite replicas)

[captruff]

Jeff, from memory, the factory 40mm lug bolts don't normally get a full 6 turns with OE MB wheels either. I'll measure how far the lugs protrude from the back of factory wheels vs the Maxilite but I'm expecting them to be the same.

Stay tuned!

Dave:

Please do because it was my understanding the 40mm were correct.

Jeff

 

[HansPanzer]

Not to threadjack, but I recently also ran into an issue with the Maxilite Aero 1 replicas. On the rear 17x9 ET0 wheels the stock lug nuts were way too long. I had to order a set of R12x1.5x28mm lug bolts for them to work.

I shredded the wall of my 275/40 Continentals on my R129. I put them on the 500E but haven't driven it yet. I suspect they will rub as well. I'm either gonna get the sides shaved or I'll have to put some 255 tires on there.

 

[gsxr]

Lug bolt protrusion is surprisingly difficult to measure, or at least to get repeatable data. OE/AMG wheels do not have a flat surface surrounding the bolt hole like Maxilite does, which adds to the difficulties. I checked Maxilite Evo, MB Evo, and several other MB/AMG wheels; all using standard-length OE lug bolts with 40mm shank. Numbers should be accurate within ±0.2mm or so:

16.5mm = Maxilite (8.25" Evo replica)​

17.0mm = Most MB/AMG wheels​

18.5mm = MB Evo II (8.25")​

Approximate number of turns listed below. This may vary slightly from lug bolt to lug bolt. With 1.5 thread pitch, 1.5mm of length is 1.0 turn, 0.75mm would be 0.5 turn, etc. Again, this is with standard 40mm shank length:

4.2 = Maxilite (8.25" Evo replica)​

4.5 = Most MB/AMG wheels (mounted on 500E front, see note below)​

5.6 = MB Evo (8.25")​

NOTE: Number of turns reported above, was measured on a 500E FRONT HUB. This matters because different brake rotors have different thickness hats (as thin as 4.5mm for rears, as thick as 7.5mm for fronts). The same wheel and lug bolt can have more than one full rotation of the lug bolt difference, when comparing front to rear, depending on the brakes installed. 036 front rotor hats are 7.5mm, rears are 6.5mm. However 034 (and most other non-V8, 124 chassis) hats are 5.5mm front / 4.5mm rear.

Jeff, you are right, the Maxilites are slightly different than both standard MB wheels and OE Evos. I hadn't noticed this during installation. A 45mm bolt may be preferred for the Maxilites, although care would need to be exercised for the rear to confirm the bolts don't contact the parking brake mechanism. A 45mm bolt would protrude an estimated 21.5mm which is borderline with 036 rear brakes (see below), and *will* interfere with parking brake internals on a car with 124.034 or smaller rear brakes.

UPDATE 2:
I purchased a set of 45mm shank length aftermarket lug bolts from Otis LA Inc., which work fine on the front wheels. However, for the 500E rear wheels, the 45mm bolts would lightly contact the parking brake internals. I had to grind about 1mm off the ends of 10 bolts for adequate clearance on the 500E rears. With the 44mm shank there were zero ticking noises. I marked those 10 bolts so I'd know to use them on the rear wheels, alternately you can grind down all 20. Again, this is primarily a concern for all E500E, and any other car with upgraded brakes (i.e., Silver Arrow kit) which have "thick" rotor hats like the E500E. The longer bolts should not be needed for cars with the "thin hat" rotors.

 

[dreaming.haze]

@gsxr - Can you confirm which set of lug bolts you went with from Otis? Looks like multiple styles / sizes available for the 45mm shank length: Search: 10 results found for "45mm"

 

[gsxr]

You want M12mm x 1.5, 45mm Shank, R12 Ball Seat, Hex 17. Link below, currently on sale (clearance?) for $25/set... be warned their shipping fees are were exorbitant, they charged more for shipping ($27 was the lowest cost ship option) than the price for 1 set of bolts.

For an E500E, remember to grind down ~1mm off the bolts used on the rear brakes. Alternately you can mount the wheels & torque the 45mm bolts, then rotate each rear wheel by hand and listen for any noises... pretty likely you'll need to trim them though.

RAD Lug Bolt 12mmx1.5, 45mm Shank, R12 Ball Seat, Hex 17 (SINGLE PIECE)

RAD Lug Bolt 12mmx1.5, 45mm Shank, R12 Ball Seat, 17mm Hex, Dacromet Coated THESE LISTINGS ARE FOR SINGLE PIECES. THIS IS THE STANDARD QUANTITY FOR A CAR. IF YOU NEED SMALLER QUANTITIES THAN THIS OR NEED A SIZE YOU DON'T SEE, PLEASE EMAIL US. Due to liability issues RAD lug bolts and wheel locks...

www.otisincla.com

 

[dreaming.haze]

Thanks for the link - Looks like $21 shipping to my house in Indianapolis for fedex / $10 for priority mail shipment. Just placed an order. Will wait on the wheel spacers + longer lug bolts for a future order.

 

[gsxr]

Thanks for the link - Looks like $21 shipping to my house in Indianapolis for fedex / $10 for priority mail shipment. Just placed an order. Will wait on the wheel spacers + longer lug bolts for a future order.

Now that is downright reasonable. The cheapest option when I ordered was ~$27 for USPS Priority and they shipped FedEx Saver. Now it is showing <$10 for USPS. Must have been a glitch in their ordering system at the time (January 2022), although they didn't refund me the overcharge either.

 

[maw1124]

Here they are on my 190E 2.3-16

Normally I shy away from 17" on a 16V since the only 225/40/17 was the Hoosier A7/R7 with a treadwear of 40, until Continental came out with the Extreme Contact in 225/40/17 with a treadwear of 200

I was not comfortable with a 215/40/17 or 235/40/17

Jeff

These look good on the 500E but damn they look great on the Cosworth!! I guess I like a slightly larger wheel than MB. But wow! Just wow. One of the better group buys I’ve seen, for any car.

maw

 

[dreaming.haze]

And a quick 2 days later, lug bolts in hand and ready to be used. Just need to trim down the rears subtly as noted by Dave earlier in this thread.

 

[C061]

I got a set in this past weekend, must say the quality is amazing for the price point! Got the lugs as well all is good!