Front License Plate Delete Filler

[Dunnik]

My jurisdiction, Ontario, is likely going to remove the requirement in law for the use of a front license plate. Of the 13 provinces and territories in Canada, only 3 others require both front and rear plates.

Good for us, I say. Anyway, I know there is a (North American market) front license plate delete trim piece for the W124, I'm pretty sure it should fit on the E500E but wanted to make sure, not knowing exactly where the vanilla W124 ends and the 036 begins.

 

[gsxr]

There were a couple threads discussing this in the past - search the forum for details & part numbers. IIRC the older, pre-facelift items are NLA? But the newer ones, primered and ready for paint, may be available.

 

[gerryvz]

There are one or two threads on the forum about this part, complete with part number. Last I checked (I bought a new one years ago) they were well over $100 new from MB, though you can get them discounted by ~25% through the usual suspects.

https://www.500eboard.co/forums/ind...strip-for-front-bumper-no-license-plate.9691/

https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.php?threads/front-license-plate-mounting-bracket.4445/

 

[Kyiv]

Even post-facelift license plate delete trim has been discontinued. All of my orders across several mbparts websites have been canceled. They were shows as available initially, but that's not the case

 

[gsxr]

kiev, what part number are you ordering, that is being cancelled / discontinued?

 

[gerryvz]

MB on both sides of the pond is showing the part 124 885 28 23 9999 (the primered license plate delete panel for facelift cars) as AVAILABLE and a cost of around USD $50.

MB is indicating that the part for pre-facelift cars 500E only, 124 885 20 23, is NLA.

 

[Kyiv]

124-885-09-23. Apparently that's a wrong part? LMAO from myself....

EDIT: oh wait, it must be different part between 400E and 500E...

 

[gerryvz]

Currently, in the ISPPI system, the part number 124 885 28 23 is specified for both the E500E and the 400E/E420 (likely the E420 facelift model).

Your part number 124 885 09 23 is specified for the 400E/E420 (and plenty of other 124 models), but the E500E is NOT on the application list for this part.

 

[gsxr]

124-885-09-23 is the pre-facelift part for non-036, and that one is indeed NLA. This was black and not meant to be painted.

124-885-28-23-9999 should still be available, but comes primered, and must be painted to match your existing impact strip.

 

[Kyiv]

Ordered. Gerry thanks for that code for free shipping (500EPROMO). otherwise the shipping would have been $43. For that small plastic part...

 

[gsxr]

Ordered. Gerry thanks for that code for free shipping (500EPROMO). otherwise the shipping would have been $43. For that small plastic part...

Their shipping calculator is seriously hosed up. I wonder if customers without a promo code pay the charges shown, or if Naperville adjusts shipping costs prior to charging your card?

 

[linjam]

There were a couple threads discussing this in the past - search the forum for details & part numbers. IIRC the older, pre-facelift items are NLA? But the newer ones, primered and ready for paint, may be available.

MB on both sides of the pond is showing the part 124 885 28 23 9999 (the primered license plate delete panel for facelift cars) as AVAILABLE and a cost of around USD $50.

MB is indicating that the part for pre-facelift cars 500E only, 124 885 20 23, is NLA.

Are the primered ones the same as the early ones underneath? In other words, can the primer be removed, leaving the plain black one?

 

[gerryvz]

The primer is designed to be used with any kind of paint, as a base. You would want to paint over the primer in body color. Any good body shop experienced in MB paint ought to be able to match a black paint color and texture.

 

[linjam]

The primer is designed to be used with any kind of paint, as a base. You would want to paint over the primer in body color. Any good body shop experienced in MB paint ought to be able to match a black paint color and texture.

In my case, I have a pre facelift car, so I'd like it to match the rest of my black impact strip. Would be easier to remove primer to match with rest of bumper than to to try and paint it to match rest of early bumper. This presumes the primer is on top of the original black early bumper and can be removed to reveal it without incident.

 

[gerryvz]

But who says the black that is revealed under the primer (if there), is going to match your early black bumper insert?

 

[TerryA]

I fortunately got a pre-facelift part from Jeff. It was a darkish grey when new and did not match the black impact strip but after time and a few waxing sessions it has blended in and now matches.

 

[sheward]

I understand your wanting the correct one of these unpainted, especially in this area of the car. Seems it's still not an option. Rust oleum sells semi-gloss black that is a very good match for many of the trim pieces on our cars. I used it on the delete panel as well as the wiper assemblies (windshield and headlights) with great results. A light polishing with scotchbright will adjust the sheen or gloss preferred. Finish with clear. BTW... Rust oleum has a very high titanium content, which truly does make for a superior paint.

drew

 

[gsxr]

Most likely you'll need to paint the entire impact strip AND filler panels, if you want everything to match. If available, paint both a license-plate filler and blank filler at the same time, so you can swap them around in the future and the color will match.

 

[linjam]

But who says the black that is revealed under the primer (if there), is going to match your early black bumper insert?

I'm not saying it is. I was just HOPING it was. It's unpainted, so is it unreasonable that Mercedes would simply take the molded black version and primer it for painting? It would certainly be cheaper that way, I'd have thought. I don't know how the pre-facelifted impact strips were made, but I thought perhaps they were just a black formulation of polywhatever which was then heat molded into the part. To make the facelifted versions, wouldn't they just make the original and then primer it? No need for retooling that way.

But of course I know little of how these items are made and could be way off base.

 

[linjam]

I understand your wanting the correct one of these unpainted, especially in this area of the car. Seems it's still not an option. Rust oleum sells semi-gloss black that is a very good match for many of the trim pieces on our cars. I used it on the delete panel as well as the wiper assemblies (windshield and headlights) with great results. A light polishing with scotchbright will adjust the sheen or gloss preferred. Finish with clear. BTW... Rust oleum has a very high titanium content, which truly does make for a superior paint.

drew

That's great info, Drew. Is there a color code? Is it just called "semi-gloss black"?

 

[sheward]

I initially tried two different brands. I think Krylon was the other. Others here like Wurth brand. If you do a search you will find a whole discussion on matching the various black areas on our cars including underneath the trunk lid. I did find one manufacturers semi gloss to be different from another. I used Rust oleum semi gloss black 7798.

drew

 

[linjam]

I initially tried two different brands. I think Krylon was the other. Others here like Wurth brand. If you do a search you will find a whole discussion on matching the various black areas on our cars including underneath the trunk lid. I did find one manufacturers semi gloss to be different from another. I used Rust oleum semi gloss black 7798.

drew

Thx for that, Drew

 

[linjam]

OK. I've just received two license plate delete panels (primed) and two US license plate panels (primed). In the attached photos, you can see they are black underneath the primer (delete panel not primed on the back. I may try and remove the primer and see if the resulting panel is the equivalent of the black one which is NLA from Mercedes. You will notice the part number on the back of the delete panel is without the 9999 ending numbers. The 9999 numbers indicate primed. So, this could mean underneath is just the unprimed panel. Will advise if I try it and find anything interesting. I must say I'm surprised at how inflexible these panels feel compared to the impact strip. Could crack easily when hit by another bumper, it seems, but maybe wrong.

 

[gerryvz]

Yep, years ago I had my first blank panel get cracked along a horizontal seam by someone’s bumper who pressed it in when I was parallel parked. It’s wasn’t noticeable but I bought a new panel and had it painted anyway. I think kept the old/cracked one as a spare, because it was t really visible damage. They are inflexible, but I’d rather have that part give way than something more expensive.

which reminds me, I should have order a spare whilst they are still available. Guess I’ll throw that on tomorrow’s parts order.

 

[Matin]

Looking to see if anyone has the delete filler available and looking to sell? 1248852823

Just moved my car from the UK to the US so would like to remove the front plate and fill.

 

[gsxr]

Looking to see if anyone has the delete filler available and looking to sell? 1248852823

Just moved my car from the UK to the US so would like to remove the front plate and fill.

There are some aftermarket copies available that should work ok... might tough to locate an OEM filler panel.

 

[jhodg5ck]

I have some NOS bits that I've managed to source and hold on to.

The repro's IME don't have the right texture..fine if you're painting but if you have the unpainted black inserts it looks..well....Off.

Forwarning, they're not inexpensive but they're Real and they're Right...!

 

[gsxr]

One just popped up on eBay, allegedly NOS:

Mercedes W124 C124 A124 300CE E500 AMG license plate delete filler OEM NOS | eBay

W124 delete

www.ebay.com

 

[TerryA]

Wow! $300.00 for a piece of plastic that requires painting.

Mine was a 1/3 of that and the proper one for a preface lifted 500E. It never had to be painted. It was a little off color at first but after many years on the car it now matches the bumper strip pretty darn close.

 

[gsxr]

The reproduction is back on eBay for $230. Looks like the same seller with a new account?

Mercedes W124 300CE E320 E500 AMG license plate delete filler OEM look | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Mercedes W124 300CE E320 E500 AMG license plate delete filler OEM look at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

 

[MattDynasty1991]

It is back up and seller has sent this a few times now ITS DISCOUNTED by the seller but still not great vs what ive read from users in the past