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Got a new OE idler pulley mounted yesterday
Both new and old pulley, is INA branded. Old one is made in Germany,,and the new one made in Slovakia.
I went back and forth alot between which brand to go for,as I do have connections in the aftermarket. So initially i went with the Gates branded pulley,,because that was the only one available in the parts system i have.No other supplier was able to supply either INA ,or any other brand.The Gates one was 130 dollars from my supplier.
Then it dawned on me that it is free to check price from my local Mercede dealer, ,
And guess what...it was cheaper....ALOT cheaper.
I paid 60 dollars for a genuine one.
Haha.Go figure.
So what I have done now in addition to getting the original one,,I also ordered an aftermarket INA one from a supplier out of my system, ,,so I can compare the OE part to the OEM one.
And for info,, the INA oem one cost 39 dollars .So I am looking forward getting my hands on it to compare,,,though I dont know what to do with it afterwards,,,I guess its ok to have it on the self,,just in case
Both new and old pulley, is INA branded. Old one is made in Germany,,and the new one made in Slovakia.
I went back and forth alot between which brand to go for,as I do have connections in the aftermarket. So initially i went with the Gates branded pulley,,because that was the only one available in the parts system i have.No other supplier was able to supply either INA ,or any other brand.The Gates one was 130 dollars from my supplier.
Then it dawned on me that it is free to check price from my local Mercede dealer, ,
And guess what...it was cheaper....ALOT cheaper.
I paid 60 dollars for a genuine one.
Haha.Go figure.
So what I have done now in addition to getting the original one,,I also ordered an aftermarket INA one from a supplier out of my system, ,,so I can compare the OE part to the OEM one.
And for info,, the INA oem one cost 39 dollars .So I am looking forward getting my hands on it to compare,,,though I dont know what to do with it afterwards,,,I guess its ok to have it on the self,,just in case
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Thank you so much mister. That means alot. Yeah i guess theres not to many m119 powered ones in the us. The e50 at least was a European version only as far as i can remember..Dont know about the e420 though ?
So people
I hope one of you guys can chime in
Im diagnosing a blower fan that is not blowing full blast. The last step of the blower speed is not functioning. And I've diagnosed a bad blower regulator.
My question is ...I've read somewhere that some update the regulator to a w140 type? And it seems my car ,actually has this upgrade. See picture of the blower fan And regulator.
The issue is that, when I look at the partscatalogue,my car comes up with a different part And partsnumber all together...
So the main problem,is that I cannot find the 140 part anywhere in the parts catalogue..even on " generic parts search( on the MB online parts catalogue)
Anyone farmiliar with this " issue",,,?
Any suggestions welcome .
This is the assembley in my car
Partsnumber seemingly a 140 part..
This is the part that is listed as correct for my car...Also..i reckon to fit this..seemingly i would need a different blowermotor..and wiring connector/tail
I hope one of you guys can chime in
Im diagnosing a blower fan that is not blowing full blast. The last step of the blower speed is not functioning. And I've diagnosed a bad blower regulator.
My question is ...I've read somewhere that some update the regulator to a w140 type? And it seems my car ,actually has this upgrade. See picture of the blower fan And regulator.
The issue is that, when I look at the partscatalogue,my car comes up with a different part And partsnumber all together...
So the main problem,is that I cannot find the 140 part anywhere in the parts catalogue..even on " generic parts search( on the MB online parts catalogue)
Anyone farmiliar with this " issue",,,?
Any suggestions welcome .
This is the assembley in my car
Partsnumber seemingly a 140 part..
This is the part that is listed as correct for my car...Also..i reckon to fit this..seemingly i would need a different blowermotor..and wiring connector/tail
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It's likely to be the regulator, especially if original. The regulator was superceded/upgraded to a different style that requires several parts to be replaced, which are not interchangeable with the old parts. I did this 10+ years ago on my 210.072 and needed late-style blower 210-820-68-42, plus cover 210-835-27-40 and cable 210-820-09-17.
I can't remember if your photo shows the old/early or new/late style regulator... I think it's the old style though?
Note the part number in your photo is not from a 140 chassis, it's a Bosch number which happens to have "140" in it:
I can't remember if your photo shows the old/early or new/late style regulator... I think it's the old style though?
Note the part number in your photo is not from a 140 chassis, it's a Bosch number which happens to have "140" in it:
Hey there mister.Yes i am pretty sure it is the regulator yes..cause the lcd display showing the blower/fan speed..moves from 0 to full..but the regulator does not follow..on the two last " steps" of the display..The power output on the regulator does not change either...Though i have not actually checked the power output of the signal TO the regulator...so it might be...but i do reckon the regulator is a more regular culprit?
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heyy there.Thank you for comment.
Oh yes of course..it is indeed a Bosch number..And I do agree with you that it might be the original setup for sure. ITs just i read someone putting in a w140 type regulator..and my mind shortcircuited when reading the partsnumber on the regulator in the car. Update is that i have ordered an aftermarked version of the regulator that IS mounted in the car....But i hate the fact that i could not source a geunine one..cause i do not really trust alot of the newer electrical parts on " Fleabay. This particular one i ordered ,is located in Germany though..but of course does not mean it is a " european" part
Aha, I though it was the manual dial type control. These lose a few speeds due to dry solder points.
ah i see..the system is the automatic climate system..with the pushbutton thingy
So are you as curious as I am ?
The OEM idler pulley arrived today.
The facts.
It is an INA item. As the new Mercedes original one,,it is made in Slovakia .
The number markings is kinda the same..Fxxx xxx. But obviously no Mercedes partsnumber on the plastic wheel.To be honest ,I was kinda expecting to see a Mercedes partsnumber beeing ground off...but no luck.
So now to the 100000 dollar question,,,is it "the same "part /quality?
The plastic part of the pulley is definetly different.There seems to be more "graphite"? in the plastic part on the genuine Mercedes one,,,than on the OEM INA one.The INA one is definely more plasticky if that makes sense.
Bearing looks identical.
So what am i going to do with this INA pulley.?Im putting it in my box of parts, save it for just in case...or something
Here are some pics.
Collage picture of the two genuine Mercedes Benz pulleys on top.Top left is the old one, top right is the new one.Bottom one is the new INA ONE.
The OEM idler pulley arrived today.
The facts.
It is an INA item. As the new Mercedes original one,,it is made in Slovakia .
The number markings is kinda the same..Fxxx xxx. But obviously no Mercedes partsnumber on the plastic wheel.To be honest ,I was kinda expecting to see a Mercedes partsnumber beeing ground off...but no luck.
So now to the 100000 dollar question,,,is it "the same "part /quality?
The plastic part of the pulley is definetly different.There seems to be more "graphite"? in the plastic part on the genuine Mercedes one,,,than on the OEM INA one.The INA one is definely more plasticky if that makes sense.
Bearing looks identical.
So what am i going to do with this INA pulley.?Im putting it in my box of parts, save it for just in case...or something
Here are some pics.
Collage picture of the two genuine Mercedes Benz pulleys on top.Top left is the old one, top right is the new one.Bottom one is the new INA ONE.
Yes.Alot of the parts is made somwhere in the lowcost EU. I bought a new genuine K40 relay earlier on ...The old one obviously made in Germany...the new one was made in "somewhere" along the same lines as the pulley.I think it was Slovakia aswell.I posted it somwhere in the thread
There was actually some weight difference aswell on that particular k40 relay...which is odd.
So a little something 
A week ago,,,I scratched up the front wheel on my Silverwolf
It wasn't super bad,,and I got to sand it down,and isolate the open aluminum, by putting on some clear laquer.
But you know how it is,you gotta keep it perfect.
So a weeks later,couple of days ago, i searched the local ads,for w210 parts,,,and whattayaknow...a brand new w210 Amg spec, front wheel for sale
Correct offset of Et31...1 mile from me.And for cheap aswell.
And Even more funny,,,it was a guy I kinda know from the car scene,,not a friend,but not not a friend either,,who had the wheel.
So I got it for even cheaper.
So now i can use my now TWO sparewheels,to make a perfect front set of wheels.
But my question is...what is the reasoning behind the sticker saying 80km/t an hour ?or let me rephrase:why is there a speed limit on the sparewheel?
I mean,,,The tire is just an ordinary tire,and the rim is also an ordinary Amg Monoblock...
Is the sticker maybe just a reminder ,that means > drive safely when the spare is mounted, eventhough there is no technical reason for doing So?
Here is the wheel
A week ago,,,I scratched up the front wheel on my Silverwolf
It wasn't super bad,,and I got to sand it down,and isolate the open aluminum, by putting on some clear laquer.
But you know how it is,you gotta keep it perfect.
So a weeks later,couple of days ago, i searched the local ads,for w210 parts,,,and whattayaknow...a brand new w210 Amg spec, front wheel for sale
Correct offset of Et31...1 mile from me.And for cheap aswell.
And Even more funny,,,it was a guy I kinda know from the car scene,,not a friend,but not not a friend either,,who had the wheel.
So I got it for even cheaper.
So now i can use my now TWO sparewheels,to make a perfect front set of wheels.
But my question is...what is the reasoning behind the sticker saying 80km/t an hour ?or let me rephrase:why is there a speed limit on the sparewheel?
I mean,,,The tire is just an ordinary tire,and the rim is also an ordinary Amg Monoblock...
Is the sticker maybe just a reminder ,that means > drive safely when the spare is mounted, eventhough there is no technical reason for doing So?
Here is the wheel
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What ? I didn't get thatHaha. Now i won’t be able to stop imagining the concept of skinny ‘donut’ monoblocks‘for those looking to save a few pounds in the boot…’
Haha. Sorry. Here is what we call a ‘donut spare’ in the US:What ? I didn't get that
Since those ‘donuts’ are typically where you see the speed restriction stickers, I was imagining a skinnier version of a monoblock wheel that could be fitted for weight and space savings. Lol.
Nope.Cause they all have it. So it is a factory thing.The sticker is to be found on the sparewheel in my car aswell.Well...its not there at this point..but it was there,as you can see the glue residue on the face of the rim.Take a look at the picture here of the sparewheel in my car
hahahahahaha Gotcha.
lowman, why did you need a new K40 relay? What was the problem / symptoms which were cured with a new K40?The new genuine K40 relay i bought,was made in Hungary
Congratulations on the find!
The not square tire setup is messed up if the 8x18 spare is places in the rear where a 9x18 should be.
The spare might be a summer tire while the other mounted tires are winter tires.
The other side tire might be well worn and the spare brand new leading to different diameters.
Some tires have a given rotation to consider instead of inside and outside.
And it might be a legal thing, someone could be dumb enough to go 250 on the Autobahn with a spare tire that's the wrong size, different diameter and wrong rotation. Always good if he can't blame it to the manufacturer then...
The not square tire setup is messed up if the 8x18 spare is places in the rear where a 9x18 should be.
The spare might be a summer tire while the other mounted tires are winter tires.
The other side tire might be well worn and the spare brand new leading to different diameters.
Some tires have a given rotation to consider instead of inside and outside.
And it might be a legal thing, someone could be dumb enough to go 250 on the Autobahn with a spare tire that's the wrong size, different diameter and wrong rotation. Always good if he can't blame it to the manufacturer then...
Thank you.Yeah definetly a good find in all aspects
That sounds true.I definetly agree with you there
.thanx
I bought it when i had this ESP error/glitch appearing. During the diagnosis session,,,the K40 relay was not exactly a supect in causing the issues /problems i was having with the car...but i had some thoughts and theories to what was happening etc etc..based on wiring diagrams,and ALOT of diagnosing over along period of time. So when i got a good price on a new one...and knowing they do fail from time to time...i decided to replace the relay..as i also want to " upgrade" with new genuine parts ..where i can,if the price is corresponding with the benefit of replacing the part . And in this case..it did. I still have the original one..and i have often thought about putting it back in the car..as it was not the culprit ,nor a contributing factor to the fault. The culprit was the throttle body ( which ive also made a video about ).lowman, why did you need a new K40 relay? What was the problem / symptoms which were cured with a new K40?
oh my goodness..i havent posted since oct 23..
Then it is about time.Happy new year by the way all of you people
Not much going on with the Silverwolf these days,,,as it is in winter storage.And ive only been out in the car twice...since november..because of said " winter season
So i am sitting and looking through some summer pictures..and i had to post these at least
Then it is about time.Happy new year by the way all of you people
Not much going on with the Silverwolf these days,,,as it is in winter storage.And ive only been out in the car twice...since november..because of said " winter season
So i am sitting and looking through some summer pictures..and i had to post these at least
Well, well well...
It's not the V8 knob i really wanted,but at least its something.
Finally sourced a genuine Avantgarde gearknob for Silverwolf. Its got a birdseye maple gearknob mounted at the moment,but I always wanted to at least have an Avantgarde one to put on, and switch it up from time to time.
This one was in very nice condition, but as you can see,,it had painted a partsnumber on it,by the seller, so that had to come off.
And also in need of a good clean,and polish up the top emblem.
I used modeller, Tamiya Paint remover liquid,to remove the paint.Worked great,but I felt the urge to be quick to get off excess cleaner,so it would not damage the leather.
Afterwards i used the Fenice leather restore kit,to clean and preserve the leather.
Top emblem was polished with Rupes corse compound.
End result is above ok,but not perfect.so i am debating using my leather color restore kit, where you basically paint the leather.It will then be perfect,but I also kinda like the fact that it is not like brand new,,,some wear is ok for me.
Eitherway, here is some pictures
It's not the V8 knob i really wanted,but at least its something.
Finally sourced a genuine Avantgarde gearknob for Silverwolf. Its got a birdseye maple gearknob mounted at the moment,but I always wanted to at least have an Avantgarde one to put on, and switch it up from time to time.
This one was in very nice condition, but as you can see,,it had painted a partsnumber on it,by the seller, so that had to come off.
And also in need of a good clean,and polish up the top emblem.
I used modeller, Tamiya Paint remover liquid,to remove the paint.Worked great,but I felt the urge to be quick to get off excess cleaner,so it would not damage the leather.
Afterwards i used the Fenice leather restore kit,to clean and preserve the leather.
Top emblem was polished with Rupes corse compound.
End result is above ok,but not perfect.so i am debating using my leather color restore kit, where you basically paint the leather.It will then be perfect,but I also kinda like the fact that it is not like brand new,,,some wear is ok for me.
Eitherway, here is some pictures
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Hey people
So a little update.
I want to fit my aluminium camshaft oiler tubes to my m119 in my Silverwolf..(e50)
But...i have two types,and my OCD is really trying to convince me that I should not mount them until i have them all the same.
I have asked this question before, and I think we all came to the conclusion that either of them, are most likely old and new version...like probably coming from the frist version of the m119 with KE jetronic...Obviously the problem i have ,is that it is not easy finding these aluminium version tubes ,,let alone finding only the ones to replace the ones that is have the fewest of....
They do have the same partsnumber, and seating height etc,are all the same.Its just some of them are more square in the casting...if that makes any sense....so......
What do we think,,,go ahead and mount them with new o rings,or wait until i find " new ones"..or more of them,so I have all of them the same type...
Here is some pictures
So a little update.
I want to fit my aluminium camshaft oiler tubes to my m119 in my Silverwolf..(e50)
But...i have two types,and my OCD is really trying to convince me that I should not mount them until i have them all the same.
I have asked this question before, and I think we all came to the conclusion that either of them, are most likely old and new version...like probably coming from the frist version of the m119 with KE jetronic...Obviously the problem i have ,is that it is not easy finding these aluminium version tubes ,,let alone finding only the ones to replace the ones that is have the fewest of....
They do have the same partsnumber, and seating height etc,are all the same.Its just some of them are more square in the casting...if that makes any sense....so......
What do we think,,,go ahead and mount them with new o rings,or wait until i find " new ones"..or more of them,so I have all of them the same type...
Here is some pictures
but its even 5...and not 4...so even the " number of different ones":..does not add up in " two"s"....hah..so my ocd is running crazy...
Maybe i shouldve kept quiet all together...cause now i have to make sure no one talks about this hideousness of "not all the same"ish"nessThey are functionally equivalent. Mount them. Only you (and now us) will know.
OK get them installed so you will not be distracted. Get a picture of some hot babe and stick it in a flame retardant thin container and sew it into the hood pad. That should keep your mind off the silly thoughts. Now, if you feel that bad, send me what you got plus $500 USD and I will send you the proper same sized units 
I love the obsessiveness of this post.
That is all.
To be honest this particular " job/issues" is doing my head in.haha ive avoided this job all the way back since i bought these oilertubes..just because of this.But now i wanted to do something about it..but i really struggle to put them in.Especially now when all of you lovely people knows about it 
But i apreaciate your "concern".hehe
Hey people
This weekend,,I attended this seasons first ,and biggest car event,Autopia Expo.A Huge car exibition...new cars, and enthusiast cars...
And Silverwolf was on fire
I will post some more photos,but this pic i wanted to show first
The picture was taken the day before the exibition opened,so no fence around Silverwolf at this point.
This weekend,,I attended this seasons first ,and biggest car event,Autopia Expo.A Huge car exibition...new cars, and enthusiast cars...
And Silverwolf was on fire
I will post some more photos,but this pic i wanted to show first
The picture was taken the day before the exibition opened,so no fence around Silverwolf at this point.
Yes? And the funny thing was?In this color, its even rarer...it is some 30 cars in this particular red color..if i remember correctly..1 of “599” made
Me too..and i would sell it straight away..and buy tons of other cars instead@lowman,
Stephan, Although I really love. your E50 and it’s a beautiful Benz, I’ll be taking the Ferrari!
lol
Think about ALL the nice cars you can get for the neat sum of 3.5 million dollars.hahaha
The funny thing is that Ferrari is really not honest about their production numbers for the ultra special cars at all. They’re still super rare and super unattainable for mere mortals, but I bet there will be more than 599 of them produced in the end.
That’s the joke
Hear say ....The funny thing is that Ferrari is really not honest about their production numbers for the ultra special cars at all. They’re still super rare and super unattainable for mere mortals, but I bet there will be more than 599 of them produced in the end.
I dont care bout those kindof cars eitherway...but it was the value that was the " point" of the picture though,cause the value of these super cars are just insane...Also.. I bet there are more than 12 examples of the w124036 E60 "s also 
Probably true, and the following were all entirely built at Mercedes since they are facelifts, not at Porsche right...??Hear say ....
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So....people...
To sell....or not to sell.....i have been offered a " nice "amount of cash for the Silverwolf.....what should i do? i really struggle to part with this car,as i just love it to bits.Its the perfect blend of old and new Mercedes for me...and its got so much going for it in terms of rarity, driveability, collectibilty...condition....and just...I dunno...i really struggle to let it go...
To sell....or not to sell.....i have been offered a " nice "amount of cash for the Silverwolf.....what should i do? i really struggle to part with this car,as i just love it to bits.Its the perfect blend of old and new Mercedes for me...and its got so much going for it in terms of rarity, driveability, collectibilty...condition....and just...I dunno...i really struggle to let it go...
You are definetly right.I have not had it up for sale..and nor do i have to sell..but there is just something that happens psycologically about beeing offered such amount of money,that you did not even see coming if you were to advertise it.... To be fair though..i havent spent " that much money" on it..obviously abit has been spent..but time spent is definetly on another level
So the condition of this specimen is just unreal...And that said..i have definetly enjoyed it alot ..
Thank you so much. Hm...i do not need the funds at all..but the amount beeing offered is just like on another level that i even would not have thought about if i were to advertise it for sale...that is how good it is...And ive had the car for 4 years..and there is just something in me that really wants to go for selling it just because of that amount beeing offered...but thats about it.Though my thoughts do dwell on then beeing able to get myself a c126 560Sec that ive always wanted. ..oh well....But thank you for input.That means alot
