M119.974 Top-End Consumables Mini Refresh — @Jlaa

[Jlaa]

If you order the Tecalan tubing from AHAZ or FCP et al, you will get one continuous piece of tubing, not individual 1-meter lengths.

Yeah, except FCP gave me 3 individual 1 meter lengths of 000-987-27-27 and told me they weren't able to give me 3 meters of it. And then FCP tried to make me pay for return shipping.

I'll just have Bob and Nick @ Naperville send me a 3 meter cut of 000-987-27-27 and put it in the same box as the 10 meter cut of 000-158-14-35 they promised that are going to send me to rectify the 10x1meter cut situation.

FWIW, when there are issues, I like dealing with Bob and Nick. They have great cust service skills.

 

[dionphaneuf]

Unfortunately I have seen and done it all. Note that sometimes the parts systems will sub another PN which is incorrect and they run with it anyway.

Another oddity is transmission seal kits.

If you buy a 722.6 seal kit from the MB dealer you pay about £120 for an incomplete kit. Where MB revised some of the crucial seals they omitted them from the full seal kits!

Therefore I buy Febi German made OE Kaco 722.6 seal kits which come will ALL updated revised seals in the packet for about £60. I returned some MB kits to my dealer due to this nonsense.

Double check all your large orders. They will always sub or mess several parts up. I foresee this now for the most part and triple check during orders but some stuff still slips by. Hence I have drawers and shelves full of random new MB seal rings etc that didn't fit.

^^^I've had this happen to me a number of times. The worst was with the Tstat; I have the early/116 PN, but the system subbed in a late/119PN part. I realized when I got home, so I called and SFBenz ordered the correct part (that parts not really on them). The issue came up when they tried to charge me a 20% restocking fee on the part they incorrectly ordered. I pushed back and they agreed to waive, but just the gall to even try this got under my skin. I doubt they make much if any money on us doing this, but they nonetheless are representing the brand and the company, and I like to think they ought to be willing to put in a some extra effort to support enthusiast owners like ourselves and keep the cars on the road.

@Jlaa I think I overstated it a bit, she's always very personable and nice, and generally things have been fine, but along with the above case I've had small gaskets/orings be missing in an order when I double check at the counter. To their credit she's usually been able to find it in the back. I do feel fortunate that their is a local Benz dealer that I can order parts to and pick up for free, so maybe I shouldn't complain.

 

[Jlaa]

^^^I've had this happen to me a number of times. The worst was with the Tstat; I have the early/116 PN, but the system subbed in a late/119PN part. I realized when I got home, so I called and SFBenz ordered the correct part (that parts not really on them). The issue came up when they tried to charge me a 20% restocking fee on the part they incorrectly ordered. I pushed back and they agreed to waive, but just the gall to even try this got under my skin. I doubt they make much if any money on us doing this, but they nonetheless are representing the brand and the company, and I like to think they ought to be willing to put in a some extra effort to support enthusiast owners like ourselves and keep the cars on the road.

@Jlaa I think I overstated it a bit, she's always very personable and nice, and generally things have been fine, but along with the above case I've had small gaskets/orings be missing in an order when I double check at the counter. To their credit she's usually been able to find it in the back. I do feel fortunate that their is a local Benz dealer that I can order parts to and pick up for free, so maybe I shouldn't complain.

Ah, that's great! Yeah. I had an order once with Megan @ SFBenz parts where I double checked AT THE COUNTER (like you) and I realized that they were missing a clip ---- and Megan immediately ordered another clip, no probs. I get the sense that, like MBoemparts, she has been a bit overwhelmed through the COVID crisis b/c she was the only one "manning" the shop for a while, but it seems like SF Benz is crawling out of that hole .....

And I do like patronizing a local outfit and pick up for free.

 

[gerryvz]

And I do like patronizing a local outfit and pick up for free.

 

[dionphaneuf]

I always try to leave time to sniff around the service bays, check out the cars in the dealership, and puruse the model cars in the parts section. I scored this G63 6x6 for $20 not too long ago.

 

[gerryvz]

Have you commenced your refresh project yet?

 

[Jlaa]

Unfortunately not yet. I am pulling my hair out at a subtle and somewhat inconsistent driveline (maybe?) vibration. It is driving me bonkers. I am gonna try Jono’s suggestion next to address the 3rd motor mount (trans mount) which he feels strongly can fail due to age and not necessarily mileage.

 

[Kyiv]

Have you commenced your refresh project yet?

@Jlaa, anything going on?

 

[Jlaa]

@Jlaa, anything going on?

Unfortunately no, life (and death) has prevented me from doing anything.

 

[gerryvz]

@Kyiv -- I think he's still living vicariously through my own Engine Bay Refresh. And trying to determine all of the various hidden / esoteric foam pieces that his OCD is nagging him to replace and refresh to make his car perfect.

 

[gerryvz]

Have you commenced your refresh project yet?

Unfortunately not yet. I am pulling my hair out at a subtle and somewhat inconsistent driveline (maybe?) vibration. It is driving me bonkers. I am gonna try Jono’s suggestion next to address the 3rd motor mount (trans mount) which he feels strongly can fail due to age and not necessarily mileage.

@Jlaa, anything going on?

Unfortunately no, life (and death) has prevented me from doing anything.

Any updates on this project?!?

 

[Jlaa]

Any updates on this project?!?

Unfortunately no. Checking my records, I've driven this car 600 miles in the past 12 months .... maybe I will get to the 500E after I stop doing all these projects on my w210....

 

[gsxr]

Unfortunately no. Checking my records, I've driven this car 600 miles in the past 12 months .... maybe I will get to the 500E after I stop doing all these projects on my w210....

Just hand the keys to your daughter already, and stop trying to delay her hitting the streets!

 

[eddie916]

Here is a gsheet of parts that I will be using. I got the list of parts originally from @gerryvz's Top End Restoration Thread

I do not intend to open the cam covers or replace timing chain guides / oiler tubes / etc since I had that done 3.5 years ago.
As well, I do not intend to refurbish the coolant system since I put in new hoses / radiator / visco fan clutch 3.5 years ago. I do, however, intend to replace the hose @ the firewall that is accessible once the intake manifold is removed. I have a spare water pump that I do not intend to use, but maybe I will scope creep.

• I reverse-looked-up all the EPC diagrams from Gerry's list of parts and added twelve diagrams to the spreadsheet
• For each part, I indicated the which diagram and which number each part pertained to. I tried to color code the part to the diagram.
• Then I cross checked which parts he received in his hand written documents here and I found a few parts missing from the Top End Resto Thread and added them
• I added part 50 from diagram 119.974-14-125 which I believe was missing
• I added additional plastic pieces/covers around the cam magnet area / spark plug wire tray that are often broken
• I compared 2021 pricing with 2020 pricing from various vendors
• I ordered some parts (still not done ordering) and indicated which vendor I ordered from

500E top end - 1993

docs.google.com

This is incredible!