Well, hello everyone. After about 8 years of not being in a w124 500e, I am now in a w124 e320 new to me as of yesterday. Any recommendations for wheels? Models, offsets, etc.
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
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W124 e320 wheel recommendations
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How large / wide are you looking to go? The stock 15x6.5 are comically small.
There are lots of OE wheel options available in 16x7.0 ET37 with 205-55-16 tires, this is a great fitment for daily driving / general use. There are a couple of 16x7.5 wheels that can work also, with fender lip rolling.
8.0 or 8.5 width requires careful offset selection, careful tire size selection, fender lip rolling, fender spacers, and other mods.
17" diameter is the max that looks good, IMO, on a standard 124. There are some stock wheels available in 17x7.5 ET37 that will work ok with 225-45-17 tires. The 7.5" Evos look sharp.
Kinda depends what you are looking for...
There are lots of OE wheel options available in 16x7.0 ET37 with 205-55-16 tires, this is a great fitment for daily driving / general use. There are a couple of 16x7.5 wheels that can work also, with fender lip rolling.
8.0 or 8.5 width requires careful offset selection, careful tire size selection, fender lip rolling, fender spacers, and other mods.
17" diameter is the max that looks good, IMO, on a standard 124. There are some stock wheels available in 17x7.5 ET37 that will work ok with 225-45-17 tires. The 7.5" Evos look sharp.
Kinda depends what you are looking for...
Late 90s CLK wheels are a popular choice. I have them on my wagon. Here's an example I found from a quick eBay search:
Set 1998 1999 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK320 OEM Factory 66470521 Wheels Rims 65179 | eBay
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Yup, I have those on our E420... photos at link below. 16x7.0 ET37 with 205-55 Michelins.
E420 at Yellowstone | 400E / E420 Discussions
Some random pics of the E420 at Jellystone, mammoth WVH Hot Springs area:
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It’s an e320 cab with 40k original miles, 040 black. Looking for period correct wheel options. May just go back to the stock wheels which I have, but i have Lorinser wood grain wheel and some other bells and whistles so open to 90’s mb tuner wheels. Right now it has a set of what looks like c55 amg wheels.
Best,
Chris
Best,
Chris
If not concerned about authentic MB wheels, Maxilite has some cromulent replicas available, including Evos in 7.5 width:
shop-us.maxilite-wheels.com
W124
W124: Gulli Style, 7x15 - Barock Style, 7x16 - Barock Style, 7x15 - Sador Style, 8.25x17 - Aero Style, 8x17 - Evo Style, 8.25x17 - Evo Style, 7.5x17 - Gulli
Or buy some from MEC Design forged and cast wheels – MEC Design
Not a real 3 Piece, but Design is have way correct.
Not a real 3 Piece, but Design is have way correct.
why 18’ are not so loved for standart W124? is not that realy big of a wheel
The fender opening isn't as large as on the E500E. 18's start to look a bit like rubber bands. Remember the stock wheels were 15" so this is a "plus 3" size on a standard 124.
i understand but there must be a 18’ wheel with a good spec that will work, i have been searching internet and couldn’t find a clear answer 
i think 18 will look perfect, i guess ill try different offsets to see wich one fits the best
i think 18 will look perfect, i guess ill try different offsets to see wich one fits the best
@TOPnotch55,
It’s a struggle to just put 17”x7.5 Monoblocks on a pedestrian 124-86-300E. I also installed KONI Reds adjustable shocks after pissing away $150.00 for a new set of stock MB shocks that Eibach said would work great with their lowering springs. My tire selection was 225/45-17 Michelins. There was no room left for anything larger and it was a rough ride. I changed the tires one more time to a 215/50-17 Michelins to get a little more rubber between the rims and the road. The ride was a little better but then I had rubs on the firewall under my feet.
Anyway, bottom line at least for me never put 18” wheels on a pedestrian 124-300E, E320, 400E or E420! They all have the same chassis.
That’s why I have a 500E for the last 21 years. No issues with 18” wheels.
Anyway, Just my opinion.
It’s a struggle to just put 17”x7.5 Monoblocks on a pedestrian 124-86-300E. I also installed KONI Reds adjustable shocks after pissing away $150.00 for a new set of stock MB shocks that Eibach said would work great with their lowering springs. My tire selection was 225/45-17 Michelins. There was no room left for anything larger and it was a rough ride. I changed the tires one more time to a 215/50-17 Michelins to get a little more rubber between the rims and the road. The ride was a little better but then I had rubs on the firewall under my feet.
Anyway, bottom line at least for me never put 18” wheels on a pedestrian 124-300E, E320, 400E or E420! They all have the same chassis.
That’s why I have a 500E for the last 21 years. No issues with 18” wheels.
Anyway, Just my opinion.
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Diameter doesn't affect fitment (assuming it's larger than stock)... diameter affects appearance. If you like 18's, that's fine.i understand but there must be a 18’ wheel with a good spec that will work, i have been searching internet and couldn’t find a clear answer
Width AND offset affects fitment. The two are critical. An offset that works on a narrower wheel may not work on a wider wheel. The wider the wheel, the more critical offset becomes as there's a more limited range of acceptable offsets.
You'll need to find 18x7.5 or 18x8.0 wheels... widest 18x8.5. The wider they are, the more modifications you'll need to have clearance without rubbing, when cornering hard.
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will this be a god fit on regular W124Diameter doesn't affect fitment (assuming it's larger than stock)... diameter affects appearance. If you like 18's, that's fine.
Width AND offset affects fitment. The two are critical. An offset that works on a narrower wheel may not work on a wider wheel. The wider the wheel, the more critical offset becomes as there's a more limited range of acceptable offsets.
You'll need to find 18x7.5 or 18x8.0 wheels... widest 18x8.5. The wider they are, the more modifications you'll need to have clearance without rubbing, when cornering hard.
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On a regular narrow-body 124, the narrower Evo wheel (7.5x17 ET37) is perfect, with a 225/45/17 tire. HOWEVER, this wheel will not clear front brake calipers larger than 295mm. The 300/320/334mm front calipers touch the back of the spokes. It's not a diameter or offset issue, it's the distance from the spoke to the hub. With stock brakes, these are ideal. Minimal fender rolling is needed at stock ride height, if lowered it may need more tweaking.
The 8.25x17 ET37 Evo wheels are an aggressive fitment. These will work, but require rolling the fender lips, adding fender spacers, strut travel limiters, and some other mods. Ideal tire is 235/45/17 but if you encounter rubbing issues, you can downsize slightly to 225/45/17. This depends more on the tire brand/model, a 235 tire with a rounded shoulder profile is more likely to clear vs a 225 square shoulder. Ditto for your driving style, if it's a cruiser that doesn't get pushed hard, it may never rub. If you treat every cloverleaf like your personal skidpad, where the front wheels are turned near max compression, you'll need to make sure to do all the clearance mods.
8.0 wide with ET37 front / ET35 rear is similar to the 8.25" Evos above, just a few mm less aggressive. Plan on the same mods / lip rolling / fender spacers / etc. Ride quality with 18's will suffer a bit, and may not look quite "right" on a standard 124. I generally don't advise 18's on a standard 124.
I had more than enough to handle on my long gone 86 300E w/ Eibach Lowering Springs and 17” after market Monoblocks. I’m not sure on the width but suspect they were 7-1/2”. They were sold by Beck back in the 90s for the 124. I ended up spending a lot of $$$ on 2 sets of shocks 1st new stock MBs which Eibach said would do a good job and finally a set of KONI Adjustable Reds. I had rubs with the 225/45-17 Michelin tires. The rub was on the body panels under my feet (by the gas pedal I thought) anyway I switched to a 215/50-17 Yokohama tire which helped the ride a little and the rub went away. I did roll the fender lips but didn’t know about spacers back then. I was never quite happy with the results and fiddling around and vast amounts of $$$ I spent on it. After all the mods I kept the car about a year and sold it.
I’m not sure if a E320 124 has a different wheelbase or not but as far as I’m concerned 18”’on a stock 124 is out of the question. My suggestion is go with a 7-1/2”x17” rim. Forget about 18s.
BTW, I settled this issue by getting a 500E 22 years ago and it has 18” wheels that fit w/ no problems.
This my opinion only others may differ.
I’m not sure if a E320 124 has a different wheelbase or not but as far as I’m concerned 18”’on a stock 124 is out of the question. My suggestion is go with a 7-1/2”x17” rim. Forget about 18s.
BTW, I settled this issue by getting a 500E 22 years ago and it has 18” wheels that fit w/ no problems.
This my opinion only others may differ.
i would like to get to the bottom of this because there is so much information and opinions its getting a little bit confusing, let’s establish the BEST rim and tire fitment for the W124 narrow body so there will be no more questions
-biggest/widest rim/tire you can fit without any rubbing and any fender roll
-biggest/widest rim/tire you can fit with rolling fenders and fender spacers
-best offset
-best looking
-sitting flush
-if the rear fits more meat thats great
anything that will give the narrow body the best mand maximum rim and tire combo
everyone leave a comment with your personal best combo
-biggest/widest rim/tire you can fit without any rubbing and any fender roll
-biggest/widest rim/tire you can fit with rolling fenders and fender spacers
-best offset
-best looking
-sitting flush
-if the rear fits more meat thats great
anything that will give the narrow body the best mand maximum rim and tire combo
everyone leave a comment with your personal best combo
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I think GSXR has covered it well.
I would personally run the narrow Evos or a standard MB 90s Sportline rim in 16x7.5 et 41. There is a set of these for sale currently on Atlanta marketplace listed for$400.00. This is very close in appearance to a stock 500E wheel. Both these wheels will work without modifications.
A square set of C36 front Monoblocks which are 17x7.5 et35 would likely work without mods, (Dave would likely know) but you may spend years trying to acquire a set. They would also look great.
I would personally run the narrow Evos or a standard MB 90s Sportline rim in 16x7.5 et 41. There is a set of these for sale currently on Atlanta marketplace listed for$400.00. This is very close in appearance to a stock 500E wheel. Both these wheels will work without modifications.
A square set of C36 front Monoblocks which are 17x7.5 et35 would likely work without mods, (Dave would likely know) but you may spend years trying to acquire a set. They would also look great.
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The reason this is difficult, is because you can fit a 12" wide wheel with 345 tire (and an appropriate offset), and at stock ride height the car will roll forward and back without rubbing... with the tires poking inches outside the fenders. SOME people will say this "fits". I do not.
IMO, the combo needs to not rub (significantly) under your normal driving conditions. This is the second problem. An aggressive fitment may not rub when cruising around town at low speeds on smooth pavement. But it may rub at or near full suspension compression, especially when turning (for the front wheels). This is why some people say a particular aggressive fitment "doesn't rub at all!", while someone else may report a less aggressive fitment "rubs all the time". There is no black and white answer.
WITHOUT fender rolling, you're limited to the largest factory fitment... 7.0" wide, for 1990-up models. Through 1989, mods are still needed for 7.0 wheels.
The factory AMG wheel install docs show varying levels of modification as the wheels get wider and offsets get lower numerically.
Factory AMG literature on my website shows that 8.5" ET30 is the maximum, and a LOT of modifications are needed, including cutting/welding sheet metal.
At some point it makes more sense to just buy an 036....
I put the EVO II wheels on my A124.066. They are replica from Maxilite, who seem to have most rims discontinued by Daimler.
7.5x17 ET 37mm - 225/45R17
Evo Style, 7,5x17, glanzgedreht | Felge | MBEV7517po-mercedesw211 e-klasse-E
Sorry, I can't find a photo of them mounted, but I'm sure you know what the look like.
7.5x17 ET 37mm - 225/45R17
Evo Style, 7,5x17, glanzgedreht | Felge | MBEV7517po-mercedesw211 e-klasse-E
Sorry, I can't find a photo of them mounted, but I'm sure you know what the look like.
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i know the rims, do you have a picture of them mounted on the car? would like to see if you have
what do you think about this?The reason this is difficult, is because you can fit a 12" wide wheel with 345 tire (and an appropriate offset), and at stock ride height the car will roll forward and back without rubbing... with the tires poking inches outside the fenders. SOME people will say this "fits". I do not.
IMO, the combo needs to not rub (significantly) under your normal driving conditions. This is the second problem. An aggressive fitment may not rub when cruising around town at low speeds on smooth pavement. But it may rub at or near full suspension compression, especially when turning (for the front wheels). This is why some people say a particular aggressive fitment "doesn't rub at all!", while someone else may report a less aggressive fitment "rubs all the time". There is no black and white answer.
WITHOUT fender rolling, you're limited to the largest factory fitment... 7.0" wide, for 1990-up models. Through 1989, mods are still needed for 7.0 wheels.
The factory AMG wheel install docs show varying levels of modification as the wheels get wider and offsets get lower numerically.
Factory AMG literature on my website shows that 8.5" ET30 is the maximum, and a LOT of modifications are needed, including cutting/welding sheet metal.
At some point it makes more sense to just buy an 036....
17x7.5 et37 front
17x8.25 et34 rear
evo style
is it too tight for the rear?
what wold be the extend of modification to the rear to fit the 8.25?
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This will work fine, but will require rolling the fender lips front & rear, plus fender spacers, etc etc. Definitely get a rounded profile rear tire.
Keep in mind the 7.5" front Evo wheels will not clear brake calipers 300mm or larger.
i suppose the brakes is the only problem so far, i can do the rest but i need some good brakes, hmmm, ill think of something, you think other model rims could accommodate a bigger brake disc?
i think ill go with something oem for now and later ill make a custom set of rims with the proper offset and size
i found this local on fb what do you think
17x7.5 et35 square
800$
is price okey?
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ill try to negotiate a bit on the price, i can take them to a local wheel shop and they will refinish and straighten them amd some new tires i should be good to go
Most 17" factory wheels will accept up to 334mm brake calipers (possibly some 345mm). The 17x7.5 Evo is an anomaly due to the spoke shape, it requires a thick spacer to clear the calipers, and at that point you might as well just use the 8.25" Evos which do clear 334mm calipers.
Size is perfect. Price seems reasonable. Plan on at least one being bent (as measured via dial guage, read this thread). Those should clear up to 334mm calipers. You'll still need fender lip rolling, etc but nothing drastic. Use a 225/45 tire on a 7.5 wheel.
got it, thank you, will post pictures laterMost 17" factory wheels will accept up to 334mm brake calipers (possibly some 345mm). The 17x7.5 Evo is an anomaly due to the spoke shape, it requires a thick spacer to clear the calipers, and at that point you might as well just use the 8.25" Evos which do clear 334mm calipers.
Size is perfect. Price seems reasonable. Plan on at least one being bent (as measured via dial guage, read this thread). Those should clear up to 334mm calipers. You'll still need fender lip rolling, etc but nothing drastic. Use a 225/45 tire on a 7.5 wheel.
found something wanted to ask your opinion on thisMost 17" factory wheels will accept up to 334mm brake calipers (possibly some 345mm). The 17x7.5 Evo is an anomaly due to the spoke shape, it requires a thick spacer to clear the calipers, and at that point you might as well just use the 8.25" Evos which do clear 334mm calipers.
Size is perfect. Price seems reasonable. Plan on at least one being bent (as measured via dial guage, read this thread). Those should clear up to 334mm calipers. You'll still need fender lip rolling, etc but nothing drastic. Use a 225/45 tire on a 7.5 wheel.
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what do you think?
anyone here familiar with this set, any experience?
Those are aftermarket, and in general I'm not a fan of budget aftermarket wheels for various reasons. (Top-shelf aftermarket like NEEZ, iForged, HRE, RENNtech, are a completeley different story. Those are great.) Remember you need cone-seat lug bolts for almsot all aftermarket wheels.
Also, all those faux 3-piece bolt heads look cool, until you have to clean brake dust out of them with a tootbrush and Q-tip. I have a set of 3pc wheels and while they look amazing, they are a flipping nightmare to clean. This is why I absolutely LOVE the Evo wheels. Ridiculously easy to clean wide, flat spokes and wide openings.
I'm also not a fan of Adsit and would only buy from them if I had absolutely no other choice. Read this old thread, I hope their policies have changed since then, but don't count on it.
Also, all those faux 3-piece bolt heads look cool, until you have to clean brake dust out of them with a tootbrush and Q-tip. I have a set of 3pc wheels and while they look amazing, they are a flipping nightmare to clean. This is why I absolutely LOVE the Evo wheels. Ridiculously easy to clean wide, flat spokes and wide openings.
I'm also not a fan of Adsit and would only buy from them if I had absolutely no other choice. Read this old thread, I hope their policies have changed since then, but don't count on it.
im was more excited because it has the same offset as the evo and i thought this one’s would cleare the bigger brake discThose are aftermarket, and in general I'm not a fan of budget aftermarket wheels for various reasons. (Top-shelf aftermarket like NEEZ, iForged, HRE, RENNtech, are a completeley different story. Those are great.) Remember you need cone-seat lug bolts for almsot all aftermarket wheels.
Also, all those faux 3-piece bolt heads look cool, until you have to clean brake dust out of them with a tootbrush and Q-tip. I have a set of 3pc wheels and while they look amazing, they are a flipping nightmare to clean. This is why I absolutely LOVE the Evo wheels. Ridiculously easy to clean wide, flat spokes and wide openings.
I'm also not a fan of Adsit and would only buy from them if I had absolutely no other choice. Read this old thread, I hope their policies have changed since then, but don't count on it.
Brake caliper clearance depends on the spoke shape / design. It's completely separate from the dimensions (width / offset). Unfortunately, there is NO way to confirm without test fitting the specific wheel+caliper combination, or having extremely detailed mechanical drawings of the wheel cross-section (which almost no aftermarket manufacturer will have available to the public).
I only know the fitment info because I personally tested specific factory wheels on each different brake caliper, for all the W124 factory calipers, including the 334mm "Silver Arrow" Brembos.
I don't know what the legal requirements are in the USA to mount rims on your cars. Here in Europe it is quite regulated and you need lots of documents proving compatibility. I have had very bad experience with some aftermarket rims procurement had gotten for our company cars. But on my A124.066 I did mount aftermarket EVO II rims. As there were only used ones available and it does require some quality checking and redoing the surface, I decided for replicas. The challenge is that most replicas are cast and not forged alloy wheel. (Hope I translated this one correct) But I did find a supplier who looked satisfactory to me and had all the certification done. In conclusion, really check the quality of the rims, unless you feel the sky is the limit. Else remember the wheels are your connection with the ground.
i found another option that looks pretty niceBrake caliper clearance depends on the spoke shape / design. It's completely separate from the dimensions (width / offset). Unfortunately, there is NO way to confirm without test fitting the specific wheel+caliper combination, or having extremely detailed mechanical drawings of the wheel cross-section (which almost no aftermarket manufacturer will have available to the public).
I only know the fitment info because I personally tested specific factory wheels on each different brake caliper, for all the W124 factory calipers, including the 334mm "Silver Arrow" Brembos.
17x7.6 et36. Is this offset good?
from Mercedes Benz C230, C350 and CLK320 was made for the front on models of 2003, 2004, 2005 & 2006.
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A bunch of these pictures are not loading for me. Particularly from the thread linked below. Anyone else having problems?
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Yes, 7.5 ET36 is fine. Same fender lip roll / fender spacers / etc, and a 225/45 tire.
Be careful, there are aftermarket copies of this wheel that use cone seat bolts. Don't mix them up. I have a set of these, two OE, two aftermarket, and have to be careful to use the right bolts. This wasn't on purpose, the wheels came on a car I bought.
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