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HOW-TO: Replacing 500E/E500 Brake Fluid

gerryvz

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Background
I'm embarrassed to admit how many years it's been since I replaced my brake fluid on my E500, but it's probably been triple the MB-specified maintenance interval. Seeing as I had my Motive Power Bleeder out recently to do my 560SEC brake fluid change, it made sense to leave it out in the garage as motivation to (finally) change & bleed the brakes on my E500 as well.

I could see that the fluid, through the opaque brake fluid reservoir, was around the color of Coca-Cola ... damn dark. I've been meaning to do this job probably for the past two to three years, at least.

This HOW-TO procedure is for all E500E models, as well as 400E/E420 models with ASR. For the average DIYer, it requires approximately one hour of time. On a 1-10 scale of difficulty, this job is rated as a 2-2.5.

Tools Needed

  • Motive Power Bleeder (or other commercial or home-made pressure bleeder)
  • 11mm combination wrench
  • 9mm combination wrench
  • Large clear water or soda bottle
  • 3-4 shop rags
  • Towels or other fender cover (to protect paint from brake fluid spills)
Parts Needed
  • 1-2 liters of DOT4-spec brake fluid
Procedure
The first step in this job is proper preparation. You need to put a fender cover over the driver's side fender of the car, and preferably cover it with a second layer, say an old beach towel or other thick rag. Also, place a few rags directly around the brake fluid reservoir, and one underneath the rear edge of the ABS/ASR pump to catch errant fluid.

See the photos below for how I placed these items in and around the engine bay.
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Next, remove the cover from the ABS/ASR pump. It is a black plastic cover and it just pulls straight up and off. There are a couple of weak catches on the underside of the cover, but if you flex it at the ends with your fingers, the catches will release and you can easily lift off the cover.
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Here is the top of the ABS/ASR pump, exposed. Note in the second photo, the "SP" bleeder valve, at the rear left (passenger side) corner as you are in front of the car looking down at the pump.
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Remove the small, blue plastic cap from the "SP" bleeder valve. As you can see, it is a hinged cap and the hinge part broke when I pulled off the cap. Set the blue plastic cap aside, perhaps inside of the ABS/ASR pump plastic cover sitting on top of the airbox.
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Remove the driver's side air intake tube. Be careful and don't rip or crease the foam -- doing so will significantly, and negatively, impact your chick magnetism !!!
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Place your brake fluid catch container down between the engine and the frame of the car, and prepare to attach your bleeder attachment to the bleeder valve.
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Attach the bleeder hose and insert the end of it into the catch container. With your 11mm open end of your combination wrench, slowly open the bleeder valve. It will let loose with a spray and stream of brake fluid into the container. Let it drain as much as it can into the container.
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Here's the amount of brake fluid that drained into the catch container from the ABS/ASR pump. When it's drained, close the bleeder valve with your 11mm wrench.
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Next, it's time to turn your attention to the brake fluid reservoir. First, clean the top of it off with a rag, and ensure that you have rags placed all around it to catch any brake fluid drips. Loosen and remove the cap, and with your fingers remove the inner screen. Place them also inside the up-turned ABS/ASR pump cover on the airbox.
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With a small hand pump, or turkey baster (what I used), remove brake fluid in the reservoir until the level is at least down to or slightly below the "MIN" mark in the reservoir. DO NOT remove ALL of the brake fluid from the reservoir -- you want to have a little bit in the bottom of the reservoir! Transfer your old brake fluid from the reservoir to the clear container.
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Here's the cumulative fluid from the ABS/ASR pump and the reservoir.
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Next, it's time to turn your attention to the power bleeder, and getting it set up correctly. First, you need to attach the cap of the power bleeder to the top of the reservoir, as below.
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Then, add at least one liter of brake fluid to the power bleeder, and screw the cap on the top of the power bleeder. Use the pump to pump it up to ~25 psi.
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When you pump up the power bleeder, you'll see just a bit of fluid begin to creep up the hose from the bleeder reservoir to the brake reservoir. This is normal.
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Now, it's time to begin bleeding each of the calipers. Start at the passenger side rear wheel, and using your 9mm wrench, follow the normal bleeding procedure. Make sure you remove enough fluid so that you have a clear stream of new fluid (in my case, blue fluid) coming through the caliper and into the reservoir. Then tighten the bleeder valve back up.

Proceed from the passenger side rear caliper; go to the driver's side rear caliper; then to the passenger side front caliper; and end up at the driver's side front caliper. You should bleed out just about one liter of fluid from all of the calipers, collectively.
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I broke out a fresh liter of ATE Super Bloo fluid, just in case I needed it....
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The next step is to start up the car, and while it's idling, use your 11mm wrench and bleeder hose to re-bleed the ABS/ASR pump. You want to open that pump bleeder valve and let it flow into the bottle, until a clear stream of new fluid is running into your collection container. When this happens, tighten the bleeder valve back up on the pump, and turn the car off.

After doing this, carefully de-pressurize your power bleeder reservoir, and remove the bleeder cap from the top of the reservoir. Get into the car, and step on the brake pedal a few times. It will be a bit spongy at first, but should firm up quickly.

Then, check the level of the brake fluid in the reservoir. Ensure it's at or near the "MAX" mark on the reservoir. Replace the screen and cap onto the top of the reservoir.
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Replace the small blue cap onto the end of the ABS/ASR pump bleeder valve (I need to find a new one, if available .. though mine is still serviceable). Replace the black plastic cover on the top of the pump. Replace the driver's side intake foam air hose, and you are done with the job.
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Lastly, take the car for a short test drive, to ensure there are no leaks and that the brake pedal feels correct. You're done !!
 
I can't believe that nobody else has done a brake fluid change HOW-TO in the past. It is one of the most basic maintenance operations, something that everyone should be doing on a regular basis....
 
It is a job that's easily overlooked. I had not done both my 500E and my work truck for a number of years. If anyone has neglected this for more than a few years there is a good chance you will FEEL the difference. Gerry. Do I understand correctly you can bleed the ABS block before hooking up the Motive?

drew
 
It is a job that's easily overlooked. I had not done both my 500E and my work truck for a number of years. If anyone has neglected this for more than a few years there is a good chance you will FEEL the difference. Gerry. Do I understand correctly you can bleed the ABS block before hooking up the Motive?

drew
I didn't feel any difference in the pedal feel. With old brake fluid, my understanding is that as it absorbs water, its boiling point goes down and this shows up when the brakes are being heavily used/under stress. I certainly didn't notice any issue in regular driving (nor did I with my 560SEC, which also went several years without a brake fluid change) with regard to braking performance for every-day driving.

I think this is one issue with why brake fluid changes are overlooked -- because drivers don't notice any sort of day-to-day difference with old/bad fluid.

Yes, you should bleed the ABS/ASR pump before bleeding the main reservoir. The ABS/ASR brake fluid will be under pressure from the pump. The fluid will drain and the pump pressure will subside. Then, after doing the calipers, you start the engine and bleed the ABS/ASR pump again until it bleeds out new fluid, as you've already done with the rest of the system.

I don't know why I never did this job before. For some reason, perhaps I was intimidated by it? I don't know. It's really one of the easiest jobs that one can do, particularly with the power bleeder. Easy one-man job. From now on, I'm going to do my brake fluid every other year, in the spring.

Still have to do my G-wagen. That car has two bleeder nipples at each caliper, so the wheels have to come off and the truck gets jacked up. Fun, fun, fun.... :agree:
 
You'll never notice a day to day difference in brake feel however it's always hilarious when I get a car who's fluid has never been changed and there is corrosion in the fluid. Flushing is super cheap insurance against calipers seizing and all kinds of other funky occurrences. The motive truly makes it a one man trouble free job. Excellent write up!
 
Gerryvz- thankyou for the write-up! I am going to change the 500E's brake fluid tomorrow. I use a Gunson Easibleed system but the principle is the same.


I did not realise the significance of that little bleed screw on the ABS Pump- I would have unknowingly skipped that part.


Only one question regarding the ABS pump- when it is bled the last time (After the callipers) is it a case of leaving the engine running & letting it bleed until the fluid runs clear or do you start the motor for a little bit & shut it off prior to bleeding? (Relying on the built up pressure to purge the fluid)
 
The second time when you bleed the ABS pump, you start the engine, leave it running, and bleed it until the pump bleed valve runs clear. Then you shut off the engine (let it run for another minute or so after you tighten the bleed screw back up) and pump pedal inside, then top up/adjust reservoir as needed.

Cheers,
Gerry
 
I didn't notice any difference in pedal feel with the 500E even though it was bled along with a brake upgrade. I did feel a major change in my trucks' pedal which had gone many years without a change. It also cured a groaning sound which was present while braking. If it was due to air in the system the air would have had to have been captured evenly in all calipers as the truck stopped very straight.

drew
 
Gerry,


I'm not sure if it's in the TDM or 42-0010, but I believe MB calls out a minimum bleeding pressure which the Motive unit will not produce. I've done all my cars @ tech session where I can use the equipment in the professional shop.
How long had it been since the last change? That looks pretty murky!

FYI.


M
 
In my limited experience... 25-30 psi should be adequate for the ASR systems used on the 124 chassis. It will bleed slowly, but it will bleed correctly. Using less pressure (say, 10-15 psi) may not work well, if at all. Non-ASR systems on the 124 should bleed ok with less pressure, but still needs pressure to bleed correctly.

:banana2:
 
20-25 psi is fine for a non-ASR system.

I went a full 25 pounds and it was fine. After doing the ABS/ASR pump and two wheels, the pressure had gone down to 20 psi, so I pumped it back up to about 27-28 psi before continuing.

Michael, I think I had not changed my brake fluid since 2009, not long after I had moved to Houston. I think it was done at the same time that my EZL was changed due to failure. That was the last time that I ever had anyone else work on my E500. The last time I ever had anyone else work on any of my cars was in late 2009, except for a few alignments at the "stealership" and new tire installation at a local tire shop. Hell, I even do my own tire patching and plugging these days, when warranted....

Indeed, the brake fluid was REALLY pretty darn dark. The stuff in the reservoir was much darker than the stuff in the ABS/ASR pump, as you can see from the photos.
 
Just bought this from Uncle Kent. Will let you know how it works.


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$58.75

Pressure Brake Bleeder

Will work on all Mercedes from 1968 to 1995 - Also select 1960's models and most later chassis up to 2006 see list below

25-minute video instructions are now included. Our pressure bleeder is modified and put together here in our shop. We take a specialized pump sprayer and add a reliable pressure gauge and a modified cap that will screw on the top of your master cylinder reservoir.

 
Just finished the job and Gerry was dead on. . . about 30 minutes using a lift to access the calipers.

WARNING: If you use Uncle Kent's fluid catcher, be sure to unscrew/depressurize the reservoir cap BEFORE you pull the tube from the caliper.
Otherwise, the fluid will spurt out all over you and everything else.

As a wise instuctor on this site has repeatedly said, "don't ask me how I know'.
 
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Need to put in new brake lines and do a fluid flush. I don’t have a bleeder. Should I get Motive or another brand?
 
Dave, for my E320 w/o ASR bleed pressure is 2 bar (29psi) per FSM. The Motive bleeder I bought is a basic model with 30psi max pressure and worked just fine.
Pretty sure FSM job 42-0010 covers my car as well as the E500E so specified pressure for you guys is also 29 psi.

Regards,

Peter
 
Get a Motive bleeder. You won't be disappointed.

Placed the order.
I was reading another forum and saw people complaining about bleeder exploding and plastic hoses that don't last long.

Anyone else experience this?
 
Yes, I had to replace my Motive's hoses after some years. The heat in Texas got to them, and when I went to use the bleeder last year the hoses were splitting and I barely got the job done. I ordered new hoses from Motive and all is good again. Minor PITA, but it is what it is. They are soft/flexible hoses so are probably susceptible to temperatures and humidity. I'd say they are good for 3-5 years, max.
 
I was about to bleed the brakes but I was stopped right at the first step when the SP bleeder valve stripped, so I resorted to a bolt extractor which initially appeared to work until I realized that no fluid was coming out. Now I have a broken bleeder valve stuck inside the ASR unit. This car was originally a Florida car so it seems that almost every bolt that touches aluminum has corroded and welded itself in. I decided to abort the bleed job for the day and order a new bleeder. As for getting the old bleeder out, I'm thinking I'll have to drill it and use a bolt extractor or easy-out. Any suggestions?

[EDIT]: The bleeder valve is $41.44! I think I may just forget about trying to replace this valve. It could turn into a bigger can of worms if I damage the threads of the ASR unit trying to drill the old valve out or, worse yet, contimate the ASR system with metal debris from drilling.
 

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Do you need to buy a used ASR/ABS pump? I have a few......

:jelmerian:

Now you're baiting me! Is there another hard line I can break open to drain the old fluid out? I know it would be messy but maybe a safer alternative. It's only slightly broken now. If I continue, I could be totally jacked. I appreciate the offer.
 
Need some clarification before I tackle changing the brake lines and flushing brake fluid. Should I:
- let all of brake fluid bleed out when disconnecting the brake lines or
- replace the brake lines with minimal bleeding and then follow the steps above for flushing the fluid separately?

Thx
 
It really doesn't matter. Just remove the brake lines and let them bleed out as you remove them. You're going to have to bleed everything anyway.

The main thing is during the bleeding process, to make sure the reservoir has enough fluid in it and doesn’t go down.
 
I just did this and let it all run out of the old line, as Gvz says it doesnt matter as you are pushing new fluid in anyway. Bleed the abs pump as well.
 
Note the FSM procedure says that if the MC reservoir is allowed to empty, you must then push through 0.5L per caliper (2 liters total). So, try not to let that happen.
 
Note the FSM procedure says that if the MC reservoir is allowed to empty, you must then push through 0.5L per caliper (2 liters total). So, try not to let that happen.

that was partly why i asked the question. If i let the brake lines fully bleed, does that empty out the master cylinder?
 
All done and back on the road....so far holding up well.
Motif says to clean the bleeder with denatured alcohol. Going to Lowe’s to get it is a non-essential trip per Governor. So what can I use to clean it?

paint thinner?
Mineral spirits?
 
All done and back on the road....so far holding up well.
Motif says to clean the bleeder with denatured alcohol. Going to Lowe’s to get it is a non-essential trip per Governor. So what can I use to clean it?

paint thinner?
Mineral spirits?

Looks like warm water cleans it well. I assume Motiv suggest alcohol because it dries off quickly.
 
It will take some time for gravity to bleed out the master cylinder -- IMHO much longer than it would take to replace each of the lines and then bleed them.

This was my experience. Fluid level dropped to "min" mark after I was done with all hoses

All done and back on the road....so far holding up well

Congrats! How did you manage to stop the leak?
 
This was my experience. Fluid level dropped to "min" mark after I was done with all hoses



Congrats! How did you manage to stop the leak?
The connection that was leaking, I took it apart and put it back together with enough pressure on the metal brake line to push in as far as possible and then hold it and then tighten normally.
i am guessing it may have moved slightly last time to cause the small leak.
 
Just did this job again, and it took an hour and a half. Had to remove each wheel to access the caliper because I did not have a lift. Lifts really do help when you have access to them because the bleed valves are very easy to reach.
 
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Just bought this from Uncle Kent. Will let you know how it works.

Pressure Brake Bleeder

Will work on all Mercedes from 1968 to 1995 - Also select 1960's models and most later chassis up to 2006 see list below

25-minute video instructions are now included. Our pressure bleeder is modified and put together here in our shop. We take a specialized pump sprayer and add a reliable pressure gauge and a modified cap that will screw on the top of your master cylinder reservoir.
I have had this bleeder since 2019, so about three years, and have used it on my entire fleet.

BUT, now I have to report that every fitting is leaking. The yellow depressurization valve, screw on fitting, and even the catch bottle all leak.
This is after I was very careful to clean everything with denatured alcohol after every job.

Just ordered this:


Think the quality might be better than this one that lasted only three years:

 
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Sorry to hear that, Trae! I'm guessing the materials are not sufficiently resistant to brake fluid. 😟

If it can't be successfully repaired, I haven't heard any complaints about the Motive kit:

I have owned an old version of the Speedi-Bleed kit for probably 15-20 years and it has been mostly trouble-free, and completely leak-free. The pressure gauge no longer reads accurately but I check tire pressure before & after use, and the pressure isn't critical as long as it's in the 25-30psi range. I use Motive catch bottles, which have also worked well. Speedi-Bleed used to be a lot more expensive, something closer to $150 for a Euro kit IIRC, and their "master" kit with multiple adapters was $200+? I forget the exact numbers. The price probably scared away most DIY'ers. I wish the reservoir was larger, but it holds enough to fully bleed any W124/W210 brake system. The current master/complete kits with multiple adapters are ~$300 (link).

Speedi now has a different Euro version but the basic design & concept is the same. The quick-connect fitting at the reservoir adapter also allows the hose to spin freely, no twisted hoses. I haven't checked prices elsewhere, but direct from the mfr it's on sale for $90 for "Pro" kit with case, or $68 for "DIY" kit with minor design changes and without case. NO free shipping, add ~$20 for standard shipping. Speedi also sells a full range of replacement parts to repair your old kit if something breaks or leaks.

$150 $90 "Pro" kit + $20 shipping:

$113 $68 "DIY" kit + $20 shipping:

I suspect this may be a perma-sale, but I'm not sure. :scratchchin:

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Can I hook this up to my Harbor Fright Central pneumatic compressor?
That would save manual pumping to maintain pressure. You would have to limit the pressure to keep it low enough around 20-25psi.
 
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Can I hook this up to my Harbor Fright Central pneumatic compressor?
That would save manual pumping to maintain pressure. You would have to limit the pressure to keep it low enough around 20-25psi.
The Speedi-Bleed is designed to get pressurized air from a tire valve. I don't know how you'd connect it to a compressor. I use a spare tire in the shop, or you can use one of the tires removed from the car while bleeding - just don't forget to top off the tire afterwards. Since tires rarely have over 35psi there's little risk of over-pressurizing the system, I'd be nervous using any source with higher pressures.

:duck:
 
Sorry to hear that, Trae! I'm guessing the materials are not sufficiently resistant to brake fluid. 😟

If it can't be successfully repaired, I haven't heard any complaints about the Motive kit:

I have owned an old version of the Speedi-Bleed kit for probably 15-20 years and it has been mostly trouble-free, and completely leak-free. The pressure gauge no longer reads accurately but I check tire pressure before & after use, and the pressure isn't critical as long as it's in the 25-30psi range. I use Motive catch bottles, which have also worked well. Speedi-Bleed used to be a lot more expensive, something closer to $150 for a Euro kit IIRC, and their "master" kit with multiple adapters was $200+? I forget the exact numbers. The price probably scared away most DIY'ers. I wish the reservoir was larger, but it holds enough to fully bleed any W124/W210 brake system. The current master/complete kits with multiple adapters are ~$300 (link).

Speedi now has a different Euro version but the basic design & concept is the same. The quick-connect fitting at the reservoir adapter also allows the hose to spin freely, no twisted hoses. I haven't checked prices elsewhere, but direct from the mfr it's on sale for $90 for "Pro" kit with case, or $68 for "DIY" kit with minor design changes and without case. NO free shipping, add ~$20 for standard shipping. Speedi also sells a full range of replacement parts to repair your old kit if something breaks or leaks.

$150 $90 "Pro" kit + $20 shipping:

$113 $68 "DIY" kit + $20 shipping:

I suspect this may be a perma-sale, but I'm not sure. :scratchchin:

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I had a hose start leaking and they sent me an updated hose (silicone based) and new clamps, and I've been happy since 2006 . . .

:-) neil
 
I had a hose start leaking and they sent me an updated hose (silicone based) and new clamps, and I've been happy since 2006 . . .
Neil, did you have the Motive or KentSource unit which received an updated hose?
 
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