Viscous Fan Clutch Replacement

[gerryvz]

As far as I know, the clutches have been out of production for several years, and are still marked as NLA from MB.

Sachs made them for many years, and the last years of production they were made by Horton, which is part of Sachs.

Where are these photos from? Are they recent?

Here is current availability from both MB Classic Parts in Germany and also RevParts catalog in the US.

 

[gsxr]

Is the new factory clutch made by Behr and looks like this?

That is a cheap aftermarket clutch, not OEM Sachs/Horton. I've never seen a Behr clutch for p/n 119-200-01-22. That may be a fake "Behr" label applied to a no-name clutch. And, aftermarket parts never use the Mercedes Star logo anywhere, which also makes me think that's a fake label (or, Photoshopped).

Behr is not OEM for this clutch. Looks like someone took a cheap no-name clutch, applied a fake "Behr Germany" decal, and then put it on an OEM Genuine box+label to make it look legitimate.


The genuine Sachs/Horton clutch looks completely different. Photos are at the link below.
Index of /images/M119/fan_clutch_119-200-01-22

 

[elietristan]

That is a cheap aftermarket clutch, not OEM Sachs/Horton. I've never seen a Behr clutch for p/n 119-200-01-22. That may be a fake "Behr" label applied to a no-name clutch. And, aftermarket parts never use the Mercedes Star logo anywhere, which also makes me think that's a fake label (or, Photoshopped).

Behr is not OEM for this clutch. Looks like someone took a cheap no-name clutch, applied a fake "Behr Germany" decal, and then put it on an OEM Genuine box+label to make it look legitimate.


The genuine Sachs/Horton clutch looks completely different. Photos are at the link below.
Index of /images/M119/fan_clutch_119-200-01-22



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I inquired about a listing from a website that seems to be out of the UK somewhere. This guy was messaging me with this picture telling me it's an original MB fan clutch and that he has two units left. I was suspicious but I was having wishful thinking however I wasn't sure if Behr made these clutches for MB? So I reached out to Dave and he saved me from losing $250 on a fake cheapie Chinese aftermarket junk part. As always thank you Dave

 

[gerryvz]

It's good you were suspicious and asked. So many scammers out there these days.....

Behr is indeed the OEM for the fan clutches that are used on the M103 and M104, and even the M117 engines. But for the M119 as used on the E500E and 400E420, the only OEM ever was Sachs+Horton.

 

[Jlaa]

On balance, I feel like the label and the part number on the part are all suspiciously well-inked. I've never seen a part where the ink stampings are so ridiculously clear and unambiguous!

 

[gsxr]

On balance, I feel like the label and the part number on the part are all suspiciously well-inked. I've never seen a part where the ink stampings are so ridiculously clear and unambiguous!

I couldn't find any clutch with the part number inked on the face like this. I'm curious of the origin.

The Star logo on the label is, IMO, Hella sloppy. But I don't have a genuine Behr label to reference for comparison.

Regardless, this clutch is sitting on top of an OE box with 2010 date code and a genuine 2010 clutch would be made by Horton.

 

[gerryvz]

The part number looks photoshopped on, to me. The label is clearly not stock and the lettering and crispness of the printing on it, also shows it is fake. If you've ever seen a Behr label on a fan clutch, usually they are red, and have different lettering that is not as dark/bolded as what is shown on this fake yellow label.

I believe I have made and posted photos in the past of M104 and M117 fan clutches, in the respective forums.

 

[elietristan]

Okay guys. I know Dave and Gerry are going to love this one. I just received in the mail today an authentic Mercedes Benz dealer item only Fan clutch for my beloved 500E. This my friends I am holding a marvelous piece of history in my hands. Truly a very rare and precious item worth more than gold itself . This is a brand new NOS clutch!! Here are a few pics.