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Gap dimensions W124
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You mean - new challenges, new horizons ?Thanks for posting, never seen this info before!
FYI, the gap dimension data is in the Technical Data Manual (TDM), under Group 60, Joint Dimensions. They are published for all chassis (124, 126, 129, 140, etc). Just found that today!
The TDM was not published every year (not sure why) but after 124 production began, there were at least TDM's in 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, and 1993. I've never seen one dated between 1994-2000, at least not in English. I don't know if TDM's were published during those years, and if not, why not. TDM's were available again as of 2001 and published almost every year from 2001 to 2012. Not sure if they are available as of 2013...
The TDM was not published every year (not sure why) but after 124 production began, there were at least TDM's in 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, and 1993. I've never seen one dated between 1994-2000, at least not in English. I don't know if TDM's were published during those years, and if not, why not. TDM's were available again as of 2001 and published almost every year from 2001 to 2012. Not sure if they are available as of 2013...
Arnt, do you mean the TDM, or the PKW-Verkaufs-Taschenbuch? In either case I think versions from 1990 to about 1994 should be valid?
Get the TDM if you can find one in nice shape at a reasonable price. There are a bunch on eBay. While the 1991 should have all the 034/036 relevant data (I think - I don't have the 1991 version), the 1993 definitely does have both. There's a plethora of useful info in there.
EDIT: The 1991 TDM has 036 data, but not 034 data, or any M104-HFM information. For complete 124 chassis data, get the 1993 TDM only.
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I have now purchased a 1993 version of this book from USA.
The 1993 appears the most comprehensive covering w124 and w140 models also which is what I was particularly interested in.
Just a note for all if you purchase one of these small pocket books-
I bought one from USA and first time I went to use it for wheel bearing data there were pages missing!!
To be fair I got a refund on it which is not the ideal outcome for me or the seller but it appeared to be a genuine mistake.
So just double check you have a complete issue when you buy these used!
That is crazy! The pages must have detached from the binding.
Joe, if you want to see the TDM specs for bearings, I can snap a photo of the pages and post them here.
Ouch - that is 35 pages missing!
I hope to score one of these books in a not too long time and I can then scan those missing pages and post them here or Email/PM them over to you if you like.
That is crazy! The pages must have detached from the binding.
Joe, if you want to see the TDM specs for bearings, I can snap a photo of the pages and post them here.
Thank you for the kind offers gents! In reality though I'll probably not use this little pocketbook very much!Ouch - that is 35 pages missing!
I hope to score one of these books in a not too long time and I can then scan those missing pages and post them here or Email/PM them over to you if you like.
I have Full WIS on several laptops so I'll just keep using that and I do have access to all the information.
I'll look for another (complete).version on ebay also in due course just to have it
Joe, the TDM is so much handier than the WIS. Finding stuff in the WIS is tedious & painful. Lots easier to flip pages. And, there is some info in the TDM which may not be present in the WIS (not 100% certain though).
Drew, the TDM's show up on eBay pretty often (click here), but generally aren't cheap. 1988 versions are relatively common, it's harder to find 1991 or 1993. As noted above, 1988 won't have M119 data.
TDM's were not printed annually, btw. I don't think any were produced between 1994-2000, or at least I've never seen one during those years.
Excellent, this is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you very much Arnt!I found this site selling shop drawings; MANTUARY, Classic-Rough-Authentic
searched for their Mercedes drawings: Mantuary
1992 S124
View attachment 195376
Anyone interested in buying the reprints... note the feedback that the largest size results in blurry text. The source image is not high enough resolution to be magnified that much. Looks like the small A3 size might be preferred:
"Nice paper, however as i took the biggest size. The image has been expanded to much and its hard to read. Good quality but better for small and medium size. Not for 50x70. Can be improved."
Mercedes W124 500E Sedan 1991 construction drawing ART work
Artwork, technical drawingeach size is on a different paper please read carefully.DIN A3 30 X 40 cm handmade handmade paper antique Finnish brown straight edgesDIN A2 42 x 60 cm highly transparent drawing paper 110g/m²50 X 70 cm 220g/m2 watercolor paper in white.They are purely decorative works of
mantuary.patternbyetsy.com
I will make a 3D-drawing but everything in 3D. Exactly as you can see the blueprints, but with colors and actual 3D photos as my software can view them, front, side, back, top, drivetrain too if wishes.
Since I got the W124 3D-scan, my model got accuracy by 100 % now. Also will render to feature E500E overall with my current skillset and scenes.
